snarlydwarf;290214 Wrote: 
> And you assume I care how you organize your music.   If you want Sinatra
> under the Q's that is your business.  I think it would be truly stupid
> and painful to navigate that way, but it is your library.

always good for a laugh, huh?  maybe i assume since you said "You would
probably want to anyway"  but now u don't care!  i'm heartbroken.  but
enough about that...  truly meaningless.

anyway...

snarlydwarf;290214 Wrote: 
> > > > you assume i have TCMP/Comp tags, when i already told you i don't. i
> > know i don't b/c if i did, i would have figured that out already by SC7
> > sorting something into VA that had no obvious known reason to be in VA,
> > (such as differing TPE1 artists on the same album).> >  
> 
> I assume you do, or you should, because you stated:
> 
> > > > (which is what it does now with my stuff, unless its a VA album or an
> > album it THINKS is VA)> >  
> 
> That exactly describes the problem of having incorrect or missing
> TCMP tags.

just b/c i think it makes more sense, the full context was:

"if the TPE2 tag was empty, then i would expect SC7 to use TPE1 to
sort, (which is what it does now with my stuff, unless its a VA album
or an album it THINKS is VA)"

so first of all, its not a problem by definition to not have a
nonstandard tag.  nor is it necessarily missing.  i did not find TCMP
on http://id3.org/id3v2.3.0

i also found no reference to the word compilation on that page.

secondly, since there's no reason i should necessarily have
non-standard tags, i totally understand why SC7 is putting albums into
VA that in reality don't belong there.

so when you said:

snarlydwarf;290199 Wrote: 
> And you will continue to be baffled as to why some albums sort as VA and
> some not.  (ie, TCMP or COMPILATION type tags, which are easy to see and
> delete... but not with WinAmp.)

you were incorrect.  i am not baffled in the least.  if SC7 would use
the BAND tag to sort, it would put these albums into the VA section.

there is an interesting question as to whether SC7 would still consider
it a VA album however.

snarlydwarf;290214 Wrote: 
> If you have an album that is being detected as VA because it has one
> track with some-other-artist, the proper way to fix that is
> COMPILATION=0.  This forces the scanner to treat it differently.

proper way?  by what standard?

look, i appreciate the advice, but it applies to someone else.  i don't
use itunes, and i don't use non-standard user defined tags.

i think if someone chooses the option of sorting by BAND, then on
scanning some extra logic might be needed to determine if the album was
VA or not if it had differing TPE1 tags.  for instance, if the TPE2 tag
said "Various Artist[s]" or "Soundtrack" or "Original Soundtrack" or
maybe even user identified criteria to SC7, then it would be a VA album
that should be sorted in the VA area.  otherwise it might still be a VA
album, but it should be sorted by the BAND tag.

again, i do not know the best implementation, i am just arguing for the
goal.

remember, half of such an option is "off" or in other words, not to use
it.  in the off position, it wouldn't affect you or anyone else,
assuming it was properly designed.  in the "on" position it might not
be perfect at first, but honestly i wouldn't expect it to be.  like
everything else with slim, i would expect refinements/improvements
going forward.

snarlydwarf;290214 Wrote: 
> For an example, see the 2nd post on this topic where I showed some of
> the tags from a Sonny Bono tribute album, which I wanted attributed to
> Sonny Bono as Album Artist and did not want to clutter up my 'browse
> artist' with a bunch of bands I have no other tracks from.
> 
> If you want to make SC (and iTunes!) handle those correctly, you should
> set the TCMP tag.

i am well aware everyone thinks i should just give in and use a tagging
app.  but i don't think thats ultimately the proper solution.


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