CatBus;299549 Wrote: 
> Within your sample data, perhaps.  It's right almost all of the time for
> me.  Go figure.

yes, exactly. the point is its made for both of us, and others, not
just you, (or me).  its not surprising it works right for you b/c you
use comp tags, and i couldn't be happier for you.  (truly, but it
doesn't end with just those for whom it works well)

CatBus;299549 Wrote: 
> I've re-read this thread just to make sure I didn't skip something and
> failed to find this more effective methodology.  You mentioned scanning
> for any tag containing the string "various artists", but this would also
> require retagging and doesn't seem any more effective at disambiguating
> data than the compilation tag.

the difference is twofold.  first, it would work with standard (read:
universal) tags, and thats what most users have.  thats an important
point.  why?  b/c it means new users will have an expected experience
out of the box and not have to go to slimserver university for a
tagging degree.

secondly, most users with standard tags would already have certain
recurring strings like "various artists" in their TPE2 field, (or other
fields).  its very typical.  if retagging would be required, it would be
no different in that sense from having to give it a comp tag, except of
course, that a comp tag would be added from scratch, and would be a
new, user defined tag to a users file, that in most cases they didn't
need until SC7 forced it.  (and not all apps support it)

and i can assure you my suggestion would be totally accurate
[reflecting whats in the tags] as opposed to simply assuming all albums
with TPE1 differentiation of even only one track are VA albums.  thats a
totally ridiculous method, b/c you know from the get go it has flaws in
the design.

CatBus;299549 Wrote: 
> I said I used the explicit compilation tag for about 6 albums out of
> 300.  That means the VA guessing algorithm has a 98% success rate.  It
> saved me the work of explicitly tagging nearly 300 albums as either
> compilations or non-compilations, so I feel I've benefitted quite a
> bit.

and this is germane b/c why?  the point of a design is to work as often
and for as many people as possible.  i am glad it works for you, but you
are not the only concern.  please don't read anything into that, i am
just trying to give you my perspective, but it does seem that b/c u
don't see it as a big problem based on your personal exp, you then
reject a problem exists.  (i have told you, and i am not the only one,
that SC7 got dozens and dozens of my albums wrong).  its your right to
do so, but its not necessarily true.

CatBus;299549 Wrote: 
> Any algorithm that makes a decision based on inadequate information is a
> guessing algorithm.  Any method that uses "extra" data to figure it out
> is just a variation on the current behavior.

i think you're just being argumentative here.  i agree its guessing,
and thats the problem.  i want to replace the broken guessing game with
a full proof methodology that is defined by the user.  (and yes, if
anyone still wants the current VA logic, by all means, leave it in, but
don't make it a requirement and don't make it by default)


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