Hi all,

Anelda, thank you for starting this discussion. Teaching Git lesson have been 
on my mind quite a lot lately. I have also discussed it with other instructors 
and gathered feedback from the learners. Here are my observations:

* The Dracula and Wolfman content of the lesson is too far away from the 
programming situation. While in theory it should make it easier to understand 
git concepts without focusing on the programming part, I find that it confuses 
learners even more. I believe there is a need for more real life example and we 
should opt for teaching Git lesson after introducing basic programming.

* Version Control is like backups, people know they need it (once they 
understand what version control is) but it’s very hard to get them excited 
about it. On the other hand it’s very easy to “sell” git as a collaboration 
tool, via GitHub. Learners are usually very excited  when going through 
forking, pull requests and online reviews. In my opinion showing how things 
work via the web interface and only after introducing command line equivalents 
works better. I’m not saying it’s better in general, but we have to keep in 
mind our learners just started using the command line a day before and have 
been using the web and web application for years.

best,
Mateusz

On 10 Jul 2017, 15:15 +0200, [email protected], wrote:
> Hi Anelda,
>
> I replace the Dracula example with Python code at
> https://github.com/rgaiacs/swc-git-novice-euroscipy2016. This was for
> Git Workshop last year during EuroScipy.
>
> > I've been wondering how we can simultaneously give a broader exposure
> > to GitHub GUI as I (since I'm not a software developer but often
> > collaborate with others on GitHub) mostly use GitHub and haven't had to
> > use git command line probably for a year now because I could do
> > everything I needed in the GUI. Not that I am promoting not teaching
> > the command line way of using git, but for people who've never ever
> > encountered version control it might be more accessible to first build
> > a mental model by learning GitHub and then going to the next step of
> > learning the command line tool.
>
> If you are teaching Git for non-developers you can probably stay with
> the online GUI provided by GitHub/GitLab/Bitbucket/... but if you are
> teaching Git for developers you will need to teach the the command line
> or any local GUI since otherwise they will not be able to share their
> changes easy.
>
> > I've been wondering if there is something that can come before the
> > git-novice lesson to help the target audience of our workshops
> > understand the value of version control and tools like GitHub. Any
> > pointers to something that is even more foundational to help build
> > mental models and create a interest to learn version control would be
> > very welcome.
>
> My impression is that the students never program before or only hack
> some small scripts they don't have experience to give the correct value
> to version control since Google Docs and similar do a great job.
>
> On this line, my last own experience teaching Git showed me that we
> should use at least two files to make more clear for instructors why
> version control is important. For example, you can use Dropbox to share
> code with your collaborator but one day you change the code and your
> collaborator change the configuration file and next morning the code
> doesn't work. How do you make the code work again? With Git, you will
> know of the merge when you two sync and check the differences.
>
> Kind regards,
> Raniere
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