Hi Simon, all, Apologies if I've created confusion by making it sound as if git and GitHub is interchangeable. I realise they are different, but I generally don't see that we get adoption of git or even a twinkle in people's eye after the git lesson when they have no prior exposure to version control and associated concepts.
I've been wondering if there is something that can come before the git-novice lesson to help the target audience of our workshops understand the value of version control and tools like GitHub. Any pointers to something that is even more foundational to help build mental models and create a interest to learn version control would be very welcome. Kind regards, Anelda On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Waldman, Simon <[email protected]> wrote: > Surely these are two different things, doing two different jobs? Git > (either command line or through a GUI) on the local machine, and Github for > the remote repo? > > > > Or is there a local GUI that also goes by the name of Github? If so, I > recommend **great** care in describing this; if I’m confused by reading > it on the discuss list, I can only imagine that learners will be too! > > > > *From:* Discuss [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Anelda van der Walt > *Sent:* 08 July 2017 06:33 > *To:* Bond, Steve (NIH/NHGRI) [F] > *Cc:* Software Carpentry Discussion; John Poole; Bryan Johnston > *Subject:* Re: [Discuss] Git lesson alternative > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > Thanks very much for sharing! > > > > I've been wondering how we can simultaneously give a broader exposure to > GitHub GUI as I (since I'm not a software developer but often collaborate > with others on GitHub) mostly use GitHub and haven't had to use git command > line probably for a year now because I could do everything I needed in the > GUI. Not that I am promoting not teaching the command line way of using > git, but for people who've never ever encountered version control it might > be more accessible to first build a mental model by learning GitHub and > then going to the next step of learning the command line tool. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Anelda > > > > On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Bond, Steve (NIH/NHGRI) [F] < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Anelda, > > We have stripped out the entire Dracula example from our workshop at the > NIH, switching to a conversions script example (dollars to cents, feet to > meters, etc). We have also chosen to focus heavily on the GitHub UI, > instead of some of the terminal commands that GitHub otherwise hides. > > https://github.com/biologyguy/git-novice > > So it doesn’t tie in with gap minder, but we do have our attendees writing > little programs. > > There are still some significant kinks though, particularly when we get to > the collaboration and conflict resolution sections. The last time we ran > the workshop a significant gap developed between the faster and slower > paced learners that was difficult to accommodate as instructors. > > -Steve > > > > > > *From: *Anelda van der Walt <[email protected]> > *Date: *Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:07 PM > *To: *Software Carpentry Discussion <[email protected]> > *Cc: *John Poole <[email protected]>, Bryan Johnston <[email protected] > > > *Subject: *[Discuss] Git lesson alternative > > > > Hi all, > > > > We'll be running a Software Carpentry workshop later this month and was > discussing the git-novice lesson again today... We would really like to > show people how real code can be put under version control in git/GitHub as > opposed to showing the Dracula story. I know this conversation has come up > several times, and some instructors have started to teach git on the > morning of day 2 so that in the afternoon, when they continue with the > Python lesson, they can show how it can be used with git. Does anyone have > an edited version of the git lesson that allows for integration with the > Python gapminder lesson perhaps? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Anelda > > > ------------------------------ > > Founded in 1821, Heriot-Watt is a leader in ideas and solutions. With > campuses and students across the entire globe we span the world, delivering > innovation and educational excellence in business, engineering, design and > the physical, social and life sciences. > > This email is generated from the Heriot-Watt University Group, which > includes: > > 1. Heriot-Watt University, a Scottish charity registered under number > SC000278 > 2. Edinburgh Business School a Charity Registered in Scotland, > SC026900. Edinburgh Business School is a company limited by guarantee, > registered in Scotland with registered number SC173556 and registered > office at Heriot-Watt University Finance Office, Riccarton, Currie, > Midlothian, EH14 4AS > 3. 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