On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 09:43:58 +0200 Anelda van der Walt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Simon, all, > > Apologies if I've created confusion by making it sound as if git and > GitHub is interchangeable. I realise they are different, but I > generally don't see that we get adoption of git or even a twinkle in > people's eye after the git lesson when they have no prior exposure to > version control and associated concepts. ? By what I see, and the feedback learners provide, I usually get people really excited about version control / git, even though they don't have any previous experience, i.e. they just know that "it exists". May it depend a lot on the community? Mainly physicists and biologists here. > I've been wondering if there is something that can come before the > git-novice lesson to help the target audience of our workshops > understand the value of version control and tools like GitHub. Any > pointers to something that is even more foundational to help build > mental models and create a interest to learn version control would be > very welcome. I use some motivational slides (~8 slides, 15 min.) prior to starting typing. But I usually do this for all the lessons I instruct. I don't have them online, but I wouldn't have any problem putting them up if you're interested. They won't blow up your mind with git light beams, but they work for me :-) Inigo > > Kind regards, > > Anelda > > On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Waldman, Simon <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Surely these are two different things, doing two different jobs? Git > > (either command line or through a GUI) on the local machine, and > > Github for the remote repo? > > > > > > > > Or is there a local GUI that also goes by the name of Github? If > > so, I recommend **great** care in describing this; if I’m confused > > by reading it on the discuss list, I can only imagine that learners > > will be too! > > > > > > > > *From:* Discuss > > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of > > *Anelda van der Walt *Sent:* 08 July 2017 06:33 > > *To:* Bond, Steve (NIH/NHGRI) [F] > > *Cc:* Software Carpentry Discussion; John Poole; Bryan Johnston > > *Subject:* Re: [Discuss] Git lesson alternative > > > > > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > > > > > Thanks very much for sharing! > > > > > > > > I've been wondering how we can simultaneously give a broader > > exposure to GitHub GUI as I (since I'm not a software developer but > > often collaborate with others on GitHub) mostly use GitHub and > > haven't had to use git command line probably for a year now because > > I could do everything I needed in the GUI. Not that I am promoting > > not teaching the command line way of using git, but for people > > who've never ever encountered version control it might be more > > accessible to first build a mental model by learning GitHub and > > then going to the next step of learning the command line tool. > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > Anelda > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Bond, Steve (NIH/NHGRI) [F] < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Anelda, > > > > We have stripped out the entire Dracula example from our workshop > > at the NIH, switching to a conversions script example (dollars to > > cents, feet to meters, etc). We have also chosen to focus heavily > > on the GitHub UI, instead of some of the terminal commands that > > GitHub otherwise hides. > > > > https://github.com/biologyguy/git-novice > > > > So it doesn’t tie in with gap minder, but we do have our attendees > > writing little programs. > > > > There are still some significant kinks though, particularly when we > > get to the collaboration and conflict resolution sections. The last > > time we ran the workshop a significant gap developed between the > > faster and slower paced learners that was difficult to accommodate > > as instructors. > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Anelda van der Walt <[email protected]> > > *Date: *Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:07 PM > > *To: *Software Carpentry Discussion > > <[email protected]> *Cc: *John Poole > > <[email protected]>, Bryan Johnston <[email protected] > > > > > *Subject: *[Discuss] Git lesson alternative > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > We'll be running a Software Carpentry workshop later this month and > > was discussing the git-novice lesson again today... We would really > > like to show people how real code can be put under version control > > in git/GitHub as opposed to showing the Dracula story. I know this > > conversation has come up several times, and some instructors have > > started to teach git on the morning of day 2 so that in the > > afternoon, when they continue with the Python lesson, they can show > > how it can be used with git. Does anyone have an edited version of > > the git lesson that allows for integration with the Python > > gapminder lesson perhaps? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Anelda > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Founded in 1821, Heriot-Watt is a leader in ideas and solutions. > > With campuses and students across the entire globe we span the > > world, delivering innovation and educational excellence in > > business, engineering, design and the physical, social and life > > sciences. > > > > This email is generated from the Heriot-Watt University Group, which > > includes: > > > > 1. Heriot-Watt University, a Scottish charity registered under > > number SC000278 > > 2. 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