Wow!!!!
Yes, I do remember that and as far as I am concerned, it worked quite
well. Given that period of computer development.
That reminds me of the Osborn computer.
On Sep 10, 2006, at 8:32 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
Hi all,
I've sstarted a different thread with the message below and agree
with Shawn. Sadly, apple calls VO a Screen Reader in their
dmaterial on the web about it. This was not the case at first, but
people shyed away from something that was not a screen reader it
seems where they would at least attempt to use a "screen reader".
I wish I had the marketing savy to put across exactly how
revolutionary a concept we have here in a way that would attract
"screen reader" uusers. In fact, years ago, we had a ttalking
interface for CPM. Anyone remember that? you turned on total talk
and were instantly informed that total talk was ready. you could
press a function key and instantly have acccess to aa number of
functions with a talking interface. It was all in the firmware and
it was beautiful.
On Sep 10, 2006, at 7:28 AM, Sean Tikkun wrote:
*Plants Soapbox firmly on the ground and steps up*
Hey Y'all... Your friendly neighborhood sighted VO user here!
Some of you have heard this rant, but given the discussion of
Vista and other things I decided to toss in.
I'd first like to propose a change of terminology. Voice Over is
not a screen reader, in my opinion it is an auditory output,
spoken output, ... take your pick, but it does not read the
screen. From working with it, It gives you direct access to the
code and information BEFORE it gets to the screen! I consider
screen reading the poor cousin of true access to a computer.
Unfortunately it was the result of the breakthrough of GUI
interface, but we have gotten back to the roots with VoiceOver.
Compare a direct interface with your computer to a third party
solution... such as Windows has. Microsoft itself tells you in
their accessibility wizard that their OS is not accessible, and
you will have to seek a 3rd party solution. How the hell do you
get away with that? It's blatantly inaccessible and yet purchased
by federal agencies and state agency recommendations all the
time. Wholly Loophole batman!
Admittedly, I have heard Apple approached FS and GW about making
a screen reader for OSX and they turned it down. So Apple had to
do it themselves. Which for anyone paying attention to
revolutions in OS and PC computing , they should have known that
would be a death knell. I also have a friend that handles
computer training for Hines VA, he has had Vista for a while now
and says every new feature just makes it less accessible. In fact
he himself is about to buy a Mac after a lifetime of PC use. I'll
admit I've been working on him since grad. school to join the
enlightened few.
As an FYI to folks I will be doing my VoiceOver song and dance
again this year at Closing The Gap in Minneapolis. I'm feeling
like a broken record though... I may have to do a VO for the
advanced user or comprehensive Apple alternatives for the blind
user... But then for that, I'm not the best resource. You all
are. I'm just some punk with a laptop that can hold his own in
front of a crowd. Feel free to hit me with suggestions or ideas
to bring to the table....
Your Friend,
Sean Richards Tikkun
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
