Josh, honestly, what could be worse than "hoping to impress upon Apple that we wish" it's flag ship applications to be accessible via the very framework it says will allow the blind to use the Mac, and not getting it?
I don't recall that you participated much in the heated debates we've had on this subject matter. But the over-exuberance I speak of was expressed by the willingness on the part of some to let Apple rest on its lorrels (e.g., "[Apple came up with VO; they are very serious about accessibility; It's only a matter of time till they make iTunes work with VO; give them time; after all, they've been working on porting Mac OSX to intel architecture...]". You know what? You are absolutely right! That's not exuberance. That's complaisancy; which is even worse! My point still stands. Which is that we assume that with consumer electronics and blind people, where there is a will, there is a way. Otherwise, we can do without. I applaud your stance toward trying to make Apple aware of your needs. But this is a departure... ...albeit, a welcomed one... Anyway, this is getting off topic (though I'm mostly to blame). Thanks for the rigorous discourse, and good luck in your efforts (all). Abdul -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:19 PM To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by the blind Subject: Re: Contact Apple: VO and iPhone Abdul Kamara wrote: > Just a very quick point: my arguments affirmed by the fact that even now you > and others have to admit that you were over-exuberant about the prospects of > iTunes being accessible. It is not. Are we about to repeat the same > behavior toward the iPhone? I see this as a pattern on this board, > excitement with a categorical dismissal of healthy skepticism, followed by > disappointment. > I was never exuberant about iTunes with VO. I only advocated giving Apple plenty of time to address the issue, after the statement they released saying that they would. I still expect they will, but patience is running out now. This is far different than hoping to impress upon Apple that we wish this new device to be made accessible.
