Hi Cheryl,

On Wednesday, March 28, 2007, at 06:22AM, David Poehlman wrote:

>cheryl, to put an item from the desktop into the trash, presss  
>ccommand-backspace.
>
>On Mar 28, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Cheryl Wade wrote:
>
>                       Dear Rafael,
>
>So, if this thing doesn't drag and drop, does that mean you can't  
>move stuff off your desktop and delete it? What a pain!
>
>Also, I'm still waiting for information on a LIST OF COMMANDS so I  
>can actually try it out. Where can one get it?
>
>Cheryl Wade

I'm sure other list members can give you a better answer, but here
are three web links that might help, if you don't want to use the
Apple VoiceOver manuals that are available both in PDF and mp3
format:

1. Bruce Bailey's list of Mac OS X VoiceOver Resources and Links

look at the second linked item for a list of VoiceOver commands
with brief descriptions; the first link is a very long list of Apple
keyboard shortcuts under Mac OS X.  (Link is to Greg's recent
copy of these pages, since Bruce mentioned earlier this month
that the original hosting domain was about to go away):

http://w3.wmcnet.org/vo/vo.html

2. Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver Information

The links to Apple's preinstalled applications give VoiceOver
specific instructions for using those applications. So you could
find out how to use Preview with VoiceOver, for example. Tim
gives very clear instructions.  There's also a general purpose
tips and tricks link.  Not all items have been updated -- for
example, iTunes accessibility is new.  Also, the VoiceOver
wiki at the Blind Techs web site hasn't worked for a while, so
ignore that link.

http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/index.html

3. Alastair's VoiceOver Basics

This is a set of quick commands and description of how to 
turn VoiceOver on and off, try the basics of navigation, 
interact with text, etc. using a subset of the VoiceOver commands

http://alastairc.ac/notes/osx/voiceover/voiceover-basics/

I bookmarked all these sites from earlier postings on this
list.  Here's a link to a post on how to search the discuss
archives:

http://www.macvisionaries.com/pipermail/discuss_macvisionaries.com/2006-December/018169.html
  

And I think what Rafael meant was that instead of using drag
and drop, you need to use the Mac OS X shortcuts for copy
(command-C) and paste (command-V) to move items
around.  


Hope this helps

Cheers,

Esther

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