I am getting very disappointed in the lot of you.
What is wrong in attempting a way for all to succeed? You have heard
the phrase win win before. What the hell is your evil opposition to
that! I have heard too much trite talk about if he is on the team I
am off the team. Maybe the conflict is his mean heart found your mean
heart. BTW, I read the posts in question...Gabe has skill issues and
brings it on, however there were no knights in shining armor either.
And I saw other people's issues too. I can indeed appreciate losing
patience and will, but time and time again I have determined the
biggest failure is not in people but in how we organize our selves.
A lot of issues are structural or mechanical issues.
It is a very simple problem with a very simple solution. It doesn't
have to be debated into the ground,
Gabe needs to be corralled more so than others in order to have success.
If Gabe is left to his own device he will fail in the endeavor.
Gabe needs mentorship, and he needs to accept the need and be
available and compliant to that.
Gabe's mentor needs to facilitate positive communication.
Gabe's mentor needs to be the conduit of his communication until he
masters some social communication skills.
This mentoring needs to be done in a transparent or private manner
that does not humiliate Gabe nor require others to be insulted OR
have to take action of any sort. The best way is to have him forward
his emails to another and have them post for at least a period of time.
Someone besides the moderator has offered to take some position in
this. So what's wrong with multiple moderators, or an assigned
moderator?
This will not work retroactively, i.e. someone privately writing him
after the fact. This has to be proactive, i.e. before the post is
published to the list.
This is a deeply rooted issue. It requires long term attention. If he
independently does well for two weeks he is likely to revert on the
third or fourth.
Many of us have the skills to do well with less structure, some of us
do well with more structure. Give Gabe some structure and he will
probably not disappoint anyone.
Finally, we all project, and that makes it even more so difficult to
implement and sustain corrective measure. If people clear their heart
and give a person another chance there is a greater possibility of
improvement. We form grudges and they crystalize and become a stone
that ultimately becomes an unnecessary anchor to the past.
Conclusion:
1) Gabe allowed back with just an admonition is doomed to failure.
2) Gabe with proper (proactive) mentorship will not be given the
chance to be unruly AND just may finally learn how!
PLEASE start offering practical solutions rather than it's my way or
the highway!
Woody
On Apr 11, 2007, at 8:29 AM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
Slau and anyone else still reading...
I certainly appreciate your position, having moderated in a number
of much bigger forums than this one. I empathize with the position
you were put in, and I admire your desire to allow Gabriel a chance
to redeem himself, even if I disagree with it.
