Hello James,

You are a newcomer to the Mac and yet you pontificate as though you knew it well. I, on the other hand, know nothing about Windows but have been a Mac user for 11 years and a VoiceOver user since Tiger was released. I don't recognise your problems with Safari. It behaves beautifully for me and I use it a great deal as I am a freelance translator and have to do research on the web all the time.

Cheers,

Anne


On Sep 1, 2007, at 11:29 PM, James Jolley wrote:

Forgive me, VO doesn't compare to either screen reader.
Imagine, JAWS cursor all day long, that's VO. sorry, but facts are facts. If people compare it to Window-eyes they hardly know the product. As it stands now, VO is narator with navigation. It doesn't tend to read things automaticly, nor have the ability to monitor screen areas but future releases will have this. Sorry, but as a screen reader, it's minimal at best.

Take the web, using it with Safari is more or less a lesson in frustration. Pages skip around, it jumps about and refuses to read passed elemennts, etc, etc.

Like I said, it is a work in progress. Any employers wouldn't see VO as a viable solution. I am expecting a lot of replies to this, but sorry, that's how I feel. Why do you think I have to run windows? It's to simply use the net because access isn't there yet with VO but it is relatively good with Window-eyes, well, streets ahead. actually.

Just my thoughts and not a reflection on what's to come. I own a mac for it's technology, not for the screen reader.


On 1 Sep 2007, at 21:33, Jude DaShiell wrote:

VoiceOver is decidedly not screen narrator nor anything like it. Leopard will have more screen reader features in its version of VoiceOver than tiger has and by screen reader features I do not mean voices. tiger at least for now is missing a read entire screen feature but leopard will have that ability. There'll be a learning curve but VoiceOver's complexity is above Window-eyes and below jaws for windows. Once the learning curve is mastered VoiceOver can do as well as jaws can for reading the screen. VoiceOver was built into the operating system while screen narrator was a bolt on job deliberately left with enough to get windows installed and no more capabilities than that. Hope this helps, every screen reader I've mentioned in this message I've used extensively at one time or another and I've had exposure to screen readers not yet discussed as well too.








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