Hey there, Any place to find keyboard shortcuts on voiceover? I'm going to meet up with a friend tomoro that has a macbook, and wanna have some keytboard commands to try with getting around. Any info would be appreciated. Like for example, how to read through the desktop icons, ETC.
Thanks, Jed -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 5:45 PM To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind Subject: Re: Some opinions on the mac You didn't do the safari configuration on http://icanworkthisthing.com yet so of course web pages will skip around. Read the voiceover article and fix then try those web pages again. f.y.i. I used window-eyes on my home computer for over a year so I do know the product. On Sat, 1 Sep 2007, James Jolley wrote: > Forgive me, VO doesn't compare to either screen reader. > Imagine, JAWS cursor all day long, that's VO. sorry, but facts are > facts. If people compare it to Window-eyes they hardly know the > product. As it stands now, VO is narator with navigation. It doesn't > tend to read things automaticly, nor have the ability to monitor > screen areas but future releases will have this. Sorry, but as a screen reader, it's minimal at best. > > Take the web, using it with Safari is more or less a lesson in frustration. > Pages skip around, it jumps about and refuses to read passed > elemennts, etc, etc. > > Like I said, it is a work in progress. Any employers wouldn't see VO > as a viable solution. I am expecting a lot of replies to this, but > sorry, that's how I feel. Why do you think I have to run windows? It's > to simply use the net because access isn't there yet with VO but it is > relatively good with Window-eyes, well, streets ahead. actually. > > Just my thoughts and not a reflection on what's to come. I own a mac > for it's technology, not for the screen reader. > > > On 1 Sep 2007, at 21:33, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >> VoiceOver is decidedly not screen narrator nor anything like it. >> Leopard will have more screen reader features in its version of >> VoiceOver than tiger has and by screen reader features I do not mean >> voices. tiger at least for now is missing a read entire screen >> feature but leopard will have that ability. There'll be a learning >> curve but VoiceOver's complexity is above Window-eyes and below jaws >> for windows. Once the learning curve is mastered VoiceOver can do as well as jaws can for reading the screen. >> VoiceOver was built into the operating system while screen narrator >> was a bolt on job deliberately left with enough to get windows >> installed and no more capabilities than that. Hope this helps, every >> screen reader I've mentioned in this message I've used extensively at >> one time or another and I've had exposure to screen readers not yet discussed as well too. >> >> >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.0/980 - Release Date: 8/30/2007 6:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.0/980 - Release Date: 8/30/2007 6:05 PM
