While we are on the subject of voices there is one issue I would like to mention. Most licenses for voices restrict your use of them. In particular you are generally not permitted to distribute recording made with them, such as DAISY digital talking books, for example.

Apple's voices are an exceptions to this rule below is a letter from Apple explaining this:

From: Sue Carroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: February 12, 2007 5:27:59 PM MST
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:  Your request to Apple / our ref# RP

Via Email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]

February 12, 2007


Dear Mr. Kearney:

Thank you for your request dated February 6, 2007 (attached) to use Apple Inc. (“Apple”) proprietary software to create certain auditory works.

Apple grants permission to you to use Apple’s Mac OS X Speech Synthesis (Macintalk) software and Repeat After Me software tool (hereafter collectively referred to as the “Apple Software”) to create synthetic voices and sounds in relation to the production of digital talking books (DAISY) for the blind and disabled (hereafter referred to as the “Works”), as specified in your request to Apple dated February 6, 2007, under the following conditions:

Except for the credit noted below, the use of the Apple Software in connection with the Works should not be portrayed in a way that Apple is in any way affiliated with the Works or indicate a false association or sponsorship with Apple.

Apple does not review third party publications and materials with regard to the use of Apple’s trademarks. Please adhere to Apple’s third party trademark and copyright guidelines located on Apple’s web site at http://www.apple.com/legal/guidelinesfor3parties.html, and refer to Apple’s trademark list at http://www.apple.com/legal/appletmlist.html <http://www.apple.com/legal/appletmlist.html> .

You agree to include the following credit line in connection with the Works:

          “Computer-generated voices courtesy of Apple Inc.”

Your use of the Apple Software to create the Works will constitute your acceptance of each of these conditions.

We also notice that you mention Cepstrai and request that you remove this reference or information from your web page at http://w3.wmcnet.org/dtbmaker/ if you plan to use Apple technology.

If you have any questions about the scope of this permission, please contact me at (408) 974-9994. Thank you for your interest and support of Apple technologies.

Sincerely,

Sue Carroll
Rights & Permissions



Sue Carroll
Apple Inc. / Legal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
408.974.9994 (office)
408.425.3035 (cell)



Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Oct 15, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

I can tell you that I wanted to buy ryan and Heather directly from Acapella for my Windows machine; they had to be bought with their engine; I think the whole package was called iVox desktop or something like that. I don't remember exactly the price quote I was given--probably still have it somewhere--but I can tell you it was VERY expensive. I did use the evaluation package download for 60 days and was able to get those voices from nextup.com just for use with Text Alound and Weather Aloud but can't use them with Windoweyes or Jaws as the purchase was only for use with the nextup products. All of this is just to say that the Acapella voices are very expensive and both David and Acapella are to be commended that they are being offered for this price on the Mac. I have no doubt that David had to do some lobbying to arrange this. Whether the new voice from Leopard was a factor or not i don't know, but the acappella product for Windows does cost. It's also excellent and I'd pay for it for windows too if I could afford it.




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Cheryl

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