You are not out of line. I am not mad and am not threatening anyone. I
just go about things to get results. I hate e-mails because the points
can get crossed. I don't have to use a product to figure out if it
isn't accessible. I don't have to use a product to find out the
research that has been done to make it accessible. I don't have to use
the product to train on it to advance someone else's career that wants
to be a Pro musician. Like I said my son uses the product and it was
very very expensive. I am not mad and I just want to wake some people
up by saying we make the difference. If we change then everything
around us change. What people fail to realize is that all my money
came from working hard from age 12 to now age 32 with no excuses. I
would be willing to talk to anyone on the phone to discuss anything.
When the majority of blind people can't get jobs in good fields
because of prejudice against their disability preseaved or other wise.
It makes me upset and I do whatever I can to make it work. In the last
month I have gotten 16 blind people jobs for Verizon Wireless call
centers nationwide. I have organized a national campaign for the
hiring of blind individuals exclusively with Verizon. If this isn't
enough to show my dedication in a non legal way. Most of us are on the
Mac because we were tired of Windows and the high price of JAWS.
Thanks for reading!
On Jan 9, 2008, at 1:53 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Okay, am totally confused in this thread now. Shaun, where in the
world is all this vitriol coming from, surely someone working in the
position you do knows that you can't threaten people for
accessibility?...
these aren't monsters, delighting in your / other's lack of ability
to use a product?... <smile> They may not always be aware but
they're surely not out to get you! lol!...
This is crazy!!!...
Until now you were asking about recording software, not even being
aware of particular titles, and yet now you're on a crusade over
ProTools as if you've been a die hard studio pro. Forgive me, but
this really sounds misplaced. -And I'm sorry if I'm out of line
here, but this sort of thing is incredibly harmful to accomplishing
the goals you're after, and simply makes it more difficult not only
for you but for others...
It's admirable to be steadfast in one's resolve, and truly a trait
to be thankful for, but being open is also a cherished trait as
well... If you don't listen and have at least *some* respect for
the people you're dealing with, then why in the world would you
expect to be listened to / worked with on something?...
again if I'm out of line then I truly apologize, and I'll not say
anything more on this thread, but I hope you'll take this to heart...
Thanks so much for reading and have a lovely evening!...
Smiles,
Cara :)
On Jan 8, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Shaun Jones wrote:
We purchased the software, tested the software, re wrote code,
presented it to Apple and sent a certified letter return receipt
requested. I don't need to represent the community with a bunch of
signatures especially if Apple can see that their is no
accessibility built in. It is a matter of if they want to do it
voluntarily or not. Either way it gets done. I don't work on sound
recording mainly because it isn't accessible, but my son is the
minister of music, a studio owner and a Pro Tools user. As a father
I would like to join in the fun of production and recording, but as
it is I can't. I wonder if those who didn't actually work for the
company would say if they weren't getting a free ride on old
equipment. Please don't wait on me to see how fast my results are,
clearly you have a life time and life long plan to bring Pro Tools
current in this life time. I can't speak for others unless I can
put Pro Tools on my Mac and say it works, other than that I say
when I tried to use it on Windows or Mac it didn't. When I
contacted the company they told me they were working on it. Well
now I am asking how much longer will they will be working on it?
On Jan 8, 2008, at 10:02 PM, Rick Boggs wrote:
We'll see. It's already been a few years of Voice Over use, and
Apple is aware of the lacking compatibility of its own programs.
We'll see how fast Sean can get results with Apple.
If there is anything the rest of us can do Mr. Jones, by aall
means, let us know what to do.
Generally, I would suggest creating some coordinated means of
receiving input from Logic users to document what works and what
does not. You might also establish a list of priorities in terms
of basic usability versus complete access to all features, versus
extended access that might include shortcuts to status info etc.
You will want the ability to talk the tech speak intelligently
with them while you are there.
Best of luck to you. Perhaps a public expression of support
similar to the Pro Tools Petition might be used to demonstrate the
support you have from the community, before you go representing
the community directly to Apple.
Just a few tyips for you there.
Waiting patiently,
Rick
Boggs
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