Your message was eloquently put and sounds very presidential. Again does it or does it not work on Tiger? I wasn't offended at the least, were you. I am not a list person because people hide behind the list as you said and only gripe. I have contacted three companies for lack of accessibility and gotten fast results, not responses. For example XMJB is a application that allows Mac users to transfer files from their Creative Zin MP3 players. He got the message from me at 12 mid night and by 6AM I was testing a beta that was fully accessible. I spent 1 and a half years defending accessibility for myself against a law firm that employed me for years. After they upgraded their software they didn't want to pay to have it scripted. I gave them over a year of chances to do the moral thing. I sued for 1.2 million and won 2.5 million. I did this all without a attorney. I am dedicated to get the majority out of this rat race that dictates that it is so hard to build accessibility in there software. I don't think you are a cry baby at all, I think that we need accessibility in Pro Tools. Again can we use it on Tiger or not. I can go on and on about my fights and victories on consumer rights but I can point you to the FDCPA and lawsuits I have won for consumers blind and sighted alike. I am a CEO of 3 companies and will be starting another by the summer, so I shake hands with the best of them. I just call there BS when I smell it. Freedom Scientific has changed more lives than the Roman church but when a company capitalizes with no morals then I have a problem. You made the changes, upgrades, held meetings, worked on development projects, done or is doing beta testing but yet we have nothing to show for it. If they had technology built into their DNA then we would be talking about buttons being renamed, not a whole community of people with the latest technology left to find a aged Mac and out of date unsupported, can't use piece of software to run one of the most expensive sound software known to man. No excuse, now can I plunk down the money and use Tiger or do I need to check the old folks home for a older Mac to run a $10,000 and up software/hardware product?
On Jan 8, 2008, at 8:16 PM, Rick Boggs wrote:

There isn't any need for people to get offended with anybody on the list over this Pro Tools topic. Clearly, work is being done, has been done, results have been achieved in the past, and will again in the future.

It strikes me as strange that blind consumers want to beat Digidesign with a big stick for not updating Pro Tools to a native version for the current Apple OS, but these same blind folks say nothing about other companies who have never done anything, made any accomodation at all to make their products accessible. Blind audio engineers are not alone in the visually impaired world when it comes to lacking equal access. At least we are dealing with a company that made a difference for us for a decade. Also, they are clearly working with competent blind beta testers to do it again for the future. So, what is the problem? Are we really just talking about impatience here? If so, how petty.

The point that OSX itself was not usable for years and that Pro Tools right now itself is not compatible with Leopard ought to cause us to wake up and understand the world we live in.

I have put my money and time where my mouth is and have made a difference through advocacy, not only with Digidesign but in other cases, sometimes involving legal action. I am prepared and very capable with a track record here, if that is where this leads, but to complain because it has not yet been done is immature and premature and lacks understanding of the process involved. Again, nobody can call me a cry baby who does nothing but complain. I have resolved issues including this very same one in the past. Neither can anybody rightfully accuse me of pandering to the corporate position and supporting stonewalling. What can be done is being done.

Inviting every blind Tom Dick and Harry who wants to be in on the technical testing aspect won't make this go faster. If anything, it will slow up the process. There are enough of us here to get things done in a number of arenas. Since Jerry and I have made progress and continue to report to this list about the progress and the plan forward, why don't some folks do similarly with other companies that make other products that we all want to use?

We are available to discuss best practices in advocacy or what has worked in the past, if that kind of information is of any interest. Otherwise, if folks just need to feel better by getting their gripes off their chest and writing to or calling companies like digidesign who are well aware at the highest level of our issues, well, let's hope that such random activity doesn't turn the tide of good will toward one of an adversarial nature.

I could go into great detail about advocacy efforts that have gone that way. Believe me, as one who has settled law suits and has pending class action suits of the nature this would become, we would be talking about five years or more of wrangling with no guarantee of what the outcome would look like.

The passion expressed on this list is good and can be put to good use. Any suggestions for secondary priorities after Pro Tools?

rick Boggs




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