Like what? If you stand around and say you are waiting on accessibility to fall in your lap you will wait a lifetime. If you are embarrassed then grow up, be a man and stand up for yourself and your people. When you told me that the only contact for Apple accessibility was a e-mail address I immediately began working on a better way. I don't wait for Apple to put accessibility in a product I find the problem and suggest results. As long as someone says Apple is the best you have no problem, but the minute someone talks about change you bow down and accept it. Your government doesn't owe you a thing, you have to go and get it. As a man I resent that comment, but as a person who was once in your frame of mind I understand.
On Jan 9, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:


The sue-happy tendency of minority groups and organizations representing said groups, is a real tragedy in the US. I say that as a totally blind US citizen.

Not every product will be accessible to the blind, and not every product that will one day be accessible to the blind be made so as quickly as we'd like. The key is to work with companies, give them positive feedback, and offer help. Strong arming makes us all look bad. This is exactly why I dislike groups like the ACB, NFB, and AFB.

Accessibility should not be forced into companies. It should be encouraged and fostered by those who need it.

As a software developer, I can understand much better than some of you here the difficulties faced by DigiDesign. Shaun, you are ignoring the key facts in that situation. DigiDesign gave blind Mac users access for a decade. Things only slowed when Mac itself no longer had a screen reader. Now that it does, they're working on it again.

This has been one of the most depressing threads I've seen on this list in a long time. It has furthered my embarrassment for the blind community as a whole.

To Apple or any other developers or manufacturers who may be reading this....we're not all like this.


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