I hope they are not paying this Rob guy and if they are they need to
get their money back.
On Jan 19, 2008, at 2:21 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
Last I knew, he was head of accessability at microsoft. I don't
know his
address.
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From: "Greg Kearney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Microsoft and Accessibility
Who is Rob Sinclair and how do we communicate with him.
Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
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On Jan 19, 2008, at 11:23 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
I think any action should go directly to Rob Sinclair and copied to
the new
ms ceo.
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To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
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theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: Microsoft and Accessibility
Hallo,
I checked it today. No impovement in comparision to MS Office 2004
(concerning the reading out of the main text editing window).
On the other hand Pages 08 has made some improvements but the
interaction with VO could much better! The interaction is not very
stable - VO does not react in the same way!
Keynotes works much better than Pages. Numbers is version 1.0.
Are there any scripts or programs to increase the compatibility
between Pages and VO!
Yours
Frank Marrenbach
Am 19.01.2008 um 17:36 schrieb Greg Kearney:
I think what is being said here is that while Microsoft give lip
service to accessibility they do not follow through as Office 08 for
Macintosh, which was a complete rewrite, is not accessible with
VoiceOver.
Microsoft Office 08 was delayed so that the program could be
rewritten in Apple's Xcode development system with a Cocoa
interface. I have some experience in using that system and can tell
you that you have to make an almost deliberate effort to make a
program which is not accessible in it.
I think we should all call up Microsoft's Macintosh division
1-866-474-4882; M-F, 5:00 AM – 9:00 PM Pacific Time and register our
displeasure with this state of affairs.
Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jan 19, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:
What?...
Sorry, am not following you at all here...
Smiles,
CQ :)
On Jan 19, 2008, at 12:11 AM, william lomas wrote:
hi they talking a lod of crap as if they that committed why isn't
office ofr ma cusable then?
On 18 Jan 2008, at 15:08, Marshall F. Scott wrote:
Hi James,
I just thought the timing was ironic. I'm not in a position to
give a technical opinion.
Marshall
On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:03 PM, James Austin wrote:
Thanks for the article. Very interesting. I just have one
question.
Microsoft seem to be saying that their new U.I Automation will
allow Screen Readers and the like interact with controls that
are not yet available, which is certainly an interesting
prospect for those using Windows. But surely as Blind/Visually
Impaired users, we should be able to integrate as fully as
possible with our sighted colleagues and friends? From what the
article said, the U>I>A does not represent the screen as I am
told VO does; and whilst this may be a good thing I don't know,
it sounds like it is a step backwards in terms of assimilation
into the wider world for us Blind users. Or am i talking
rubbish?
Any thoughts?
Take care
James
On 17 Jan 2008, at 20:06, Marshall F. Scott wrote:
Folks,
I just noticed this article and found the timing ironic.
Microsoft seems to want accessibility on it's own terms.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080117/aqth030.html?.v=35
Marshall
Marshall F. scott
University of Utah - CVRTI
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Salt Lake City, UT 84112
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University of Utah - CVRTI
95 South 2000 East
Salt Lake City, UT 84112
Phone: (801) 587-9523
Fax: (801) 581-3128
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