I think any action should go directly to Rob Sinclair and copied to the new ms ceo.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Marrenbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft and Accessibility Hallo, I checked it today. No impovement in comparision to MS Office 2004 (concerning the reading out of the main text editing window). On the other hand Pages 08 has made some improvements but the interaction with VO could much better! The interaction is not very stable - VO does not react in the same way! Keynotes works much better than Pages. Numbers is version 1.0. Are there any scripts or programs to increase the compatibility between Pages and VO! Yours Frank Marrenbach Am 19.01.2008 um 17:36 schrieb Greg Kearney: > I think what is being said here is that while Microsoft give lip > service to accessibility they do not follow through as Office 08 for > Macintosh, which was a complete rewrite, is not accessible with > VoiceOver. > > Microsoft Office 08 was delayed so that the program could be > rewritten in Apple's Xcode development system with a Cocoa > interface. I have some experience in using that system and can tell > you that you have to make an almost deliberate effort to make a > program which is not accessible in it. > > I think we should all call up Microsoft's Macintosh division > 1-866-474-4882; M-F, 5:00 AM – 9:00 PM Pacific Time and register our > displeasure with this state of affairs. > > Greg Kearney > 535 S. Jackson St. > Casper, Wyoming 82601 > 307-224-4022 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Jan 19, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: > >> What?... >> >> Sorry, am not following you at all here... >> >> Smiles, >> >> CQ :) >> >> >> On Jan 19, 2008, at 12:11 AM, william lomas wrote: >> >>> hi they talking a lod of crap as if they that committed why isn't >>> office ofr ma cusable then? >>> >>> On 18 Jan 2008, at 15:08, Marshall F. Scott wrote: >>> >>>> Hi James, >>>> I just thought the timing was ironic. I'm not in a position to >>>> give a technical opinion. >>>> Marshall >>>> >>>> On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:03 PM, James Austin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the article. Very interesting. I just have one >>>>> question. >>>>> >>>>> Microsoft seem to be saying that their new U.I Automation will >>>>> allow Screen Readers and the like interact with controls that >>>>> are not yet available, which is certainly an interesting >>>>> prospect for those using Windows. But surely as Blind/Visually >>>>> Impaired users, we should be able to integrate as fully as >>>>> possible with our sighted colleagues and friends? From what the >>>>> article said, the U>I>A does not represent the screen as I am >>>>> told VO does; and whilst this may be a good thing I don't know, >>>>> it sounds like it is a step backwards in terms of assimilation >>>>> into the wider world for us Blind users. Or am i talking rubbish? >>>>> >>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Take care >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> On 17 Jan 2008, at 20:06, Marshall F. Scott wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Folks, >>>>>> I just noticed this article and found the timing ironic. >>>>>> Microsoft seems to want accessibility on it's own terms. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080117/aqth030.html?.v=35 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Marshall >>>>>> >>>>>> Marshall F. scott >>>>>> University of Utah - CVRTI >>>>>> 95 South 2000 East >>>>>> Salt Lake City, UT 84112 >>>>>> Phone: (801) 587-9523 >>>>>> Fax: (801) 581-3128 >>>>>> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> Skype: scott9576a >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Marshall F. scott >>>> University of Utah - CVRTI >>>> 95 South 2000 East >>>> Salt Lake City, UT 84112 >>>> Phone: (801) 587-9523 >>>> Fax: (801) 581-3128 >>>> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Skype: scott9576a >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> --- >> View my Online Portfolio at: >> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >> >> > >
