I wouldn't necessarily say that. Have you ever heard of lots of responsibility but no authority? I suggest he is as painfully aware and possibly helpless over this as we are.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:59 PM Subject: Re: Microsoft and Accessibility Because he or his department isn't on their job. On Jan 19, 2008, at 4:30 PM, David Poehlman wrote: > Why? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > X by > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:37 PM > Subject: Re: Microsoft and Accessibility > > > I hope they are not paying this Rob guy and if they are they need to > get their money back. > On Jan 19, 2008, at 2:21 PM, David Poehlman wrote: > >> Last I knew, he was head of accessability at microsoft. I don't >> know his >> address. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Greg Kearney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS >> X by >> theblind" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:29 PM >> Subject: Re: Microsoft and Accessibility >> >> >> Who is Rob Sinclair and how do we communicate with him. >> >> Greg Kearney >> 535 S. Jackson St. >> Casper, Wyoming 82601 >> 307-224-4022 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> On Jan 19, 2008, at 11:23 AM, David Poehlman wrote: >> >>> I think any action should go directly to Rob Sinclair and copied to >>> the new >>> ms ceo. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Frank Marrenbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS >>> X by >>> theblind" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:51 AM >>> Subject: Re: Microsoft and Accessibility >>> >>> >>> Hallo, >>> >>> I checked it today. No impovement in comparision to MS Office 2004 >>> (concerning the reading out of the main text editing window). >>> >>> On the other hand Pages 08 has made some improvements but the >>> interaction with VO could much better! The interaction is not very >>> stable - VO does not react in the same way! >>> >>> Keynotes works much better than Pages. Numbers is version 1.0. >>> >>> Are there any scripts or programs to increase the compatibility >>> between Pages and VO! >>> >>> Yours >>> Frank Marrenbach >>> >>> >>> Am 19.01.2008 um 17:36 schrieb Greg Kearney: >>> >>>> I think what is being said here is that while Microsoft give lip >>>> service to accessibility they do not follow through as Office 08 >>>> for >>>> Macintosh, which was a complete rewrite, is not accessible with >>>> VoiceOver. >>>> >>>> Microsoft Office 08 was delayed so that the program could be >>>> rewritten in Apple's Xcode development system with a Cocoa >>>> interface. I have some experience in using that system and can tell >>>> you that you have to make an almost deliberate effort to make a >>>> program which is not accessible in it. >>>> >>>> I think we should all call up Microsoft's Macintosh division >>>> 1-866-474-4882; M-F, 5:00 AM – 9:00 PM Pacific Time and register >>>> our >>>> displeasure with this state of affairs. >>>> >>>> Greg Kearney >>>> 535 S. Jackson St. >>>> Casper, Wyoming 82601 >>>> 307-224-4022 >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> On Jan 19, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>> >>>>> What?... >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, am not following you at all here... >>>>> >>>>> Smiles, >>>>> >>>>> CQ :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 19, 2008, at 12:11 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hi they talking a lod of crap as if they that committed why isn't >>>>>> office ofr ma cusable then? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Jan 2008, at 15:08, Marshall F. Scott wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>> I just thought the timing was ironic. I'm not in a position to >>>>>>> give a technical opinion. >>>>>>> Marshall >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:03 PM, James Austin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the article. Very interesting. I just have one >>>>>>>> question. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Microsoft seem to be saying that their new U.I Automation will >>>>>>>> allow Screen Readers and the like interact with controls that >>>>>>>> are not yet available, which is certainly an interesting >>>>>>>> prospect for those using Windows. But surely as Blind/Visually >>>>>>>> Impaired users, we should be able to integrate as fully as >>>>>>>> possible with our sighted colleagues and friends? From what the >>>>>>>> article said, the U>I>A does not represent the screen as I am >>>>>>>> told VO does; and whilst this may be a good thing I don't know, >>>>>>>> it sounds like it is a step backwards in terms of assimilation >>>>>>>> into the wider world for us Blind users. Or am i talking >>>>>>>> rubbish? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>> On 17 Jan 2008, at 20:06, Marshall F. Scott wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Folks, >>>>>>>>> I just noticed this article and found the timing ironic. >>>>>>>>> Microsoft seems to want accessibility on it's own terms. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080117/aqth030.html?.v=35 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Marshall >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Marshall F. scott >>>>>>>>> University of Utah - CVRTI >>>>>>>>> 95 South 2000 East >>>>>>>>> Salt Lake City, UT 84112 >>>>>>>>> Phone: (801) 587-9523 >>>>>>>>> Fax: (801) 581-3128 >>>>>>>>> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> Skype: scott9576a >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marshall F. scott >>>>>>> University of Utah - CVRTI >>>>>>> 95 South 2000 East >>>>>>> Salt Lake City, UT 84112 >>>>>>> Phone: (801) 587-9523 >>>>>>> Fax: (801) 581-3128 >>>>>>> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> Skype: scott9576a >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> View my Online Portfolio at: >>>>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
