Why? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:37 PM Subject: Re: Microsoft and Accessibility
I hope they are not paying this Rob guy and if they are they need to get their money back. On Jan 19, 2008, at 2:21 PM, David Poehlman wrote: > Last I knew, he was head of accessability at microsoft. I don't > know his > address. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Kearney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > X by > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:29 PM > Subject: Re: Microsoft and Accessibility > > > Who is Rob Sinclair and how do we communicate with him. > > Greg Kearney > 535 S. Jackson St. > Casper, Wyoming 82601 > 307-224-4022 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Jan 19, 2008, at 11:23 AM, David Poehlman wrote: > >> I think any action should go directly to Rob Sinclair and copied to >> the new >> ms ceo. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Frank Marrenbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS >> X by >> theblind" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:51 AM >> Subject: Re: Microsoft and Accessibility >> >> >> Hallo, >> >> I checked it today. No impovement in comparision to MS Office 2004 >> (concerning the reading out of the main text editing window). >> >> On the other hand Pages 08 has made some improvements but the >> interaction with VO could much better! The interaction is not very >> stable - VO does not react in the same way! >> >> Keynotes works much better than Pages. Numbers is version 1.0. >> >> Are there any scripts or programs to increase the compatibility >> between Pages and VO! >> >> Yours >> Frank Marrenbach >> >> >> Am 19.01.2008 um 17:36 schrieb Greg Kearney: >> >>> I think what is being said here is that while Microsoft give lip >>> service to accessibility they do not follow through as Office 08 for >>> Macintosh, which was a complete rewrite, is not accessible with >>> VoiceOver. >>> >>> Microsoft Office 08 was delayed so that the program could be >>> rewritten in Apple's Xcode development system with a Cocoa >>> interface. I have some experience in using that system and can tell >>> you that you have to make an almost deliberate effort to make a >>> program which is not accessible in it. >>> >>> I think we should all call up Microsoft's Macintosh division >>> 1-866-474-4882; M-F, 5:00 AM – 9:00 PM Pacific Time and register our >>> displeasure with this state of affairs. >>> >>> Greg Kearney >>> 535 S. Jackson St. >>> Casper, Wyoming 82601 >>> 307-224-4022 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> On Jan 19, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>> >>>> What?... >>>> >>>> Sorry, am not following you at all here... >>>> >>>> Smiles, >>>> >>>> CQ :) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 19, 2008, at 12:11 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi they talking a lod of crap as if they that committed why isn't >>>>> office ofr ma cusable then? >>>>> >>>>> On 18 Jan 2008, at 15:08, Marshall F. Scott wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>> I just thought the timing was ironic. I'm not in a position to >>>>>> give a technical opinion. >>>>>> Marshall >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:03 PM, James Austin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the article. Very interesting. I just have one >>>>>>> question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Microsoft seem to be saying that their new U.I Automation will >>>>>>> allow Screen Readers and the like interact with controls that >>>>>>> are not yet available, which is certainly an interesting >>>>>>> prospect for those using Windows. But surely as Blind/Visually >>>>>>> Impaired users, we should be able to integrate as fully as >>>>>>> possible with our sighted colleagues and friends? From what the >>>>>>> article said, the U>I>A does not represent the screen as I am >>>>>>> told VO does; and whilst this may be a good thing I don't know, >>>>>>> it sounds like it is a step backwards in terms of assimilation >>>>>>> into the wider world for us Blind users. Or am i talking >>>>>>> rubbish? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> On 17 Jan 2008, at 20:06, Marshall F. Scott wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Folks, >>>>>>>> I just noticed this article and found the timing ironic. >>>>>>>> Microsoft seems to want accessibility on it's own terms. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080117/aqth030.html?.v=35 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marshall >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marshall F. scott >>>>>>>> University of Utah - CVRTI >>>>>>>> 95 South 2000 East >>>>>>>> Salt Lake City, UT 84112 >>>>>>>> Phone: (801) 587-9523 >>>>>>>> Fax: (801) 581-3128 >>>>>>>> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> Skype: scott9576a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Marshall F. scott >>>>>> University of Utah - CVRTI >>>>>> 95 South 2000 East >>>>>> Salt Lake City, UT 84112 >>>>>> Phone: (801) 587-9523 >>>>>> Fax: (801) 581-3128 >>>>>> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> Skype: scott9576a >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> View my Online Portfolio at: >>>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
