I agree Shawn, makes me think that they really don't know what's out
there for us mac users, as far as accessibility, and all they're
focussing on is JAWS, and how things are on the windows side with
Itunes. IN using the mac so far for a week, haven't played with
Itunes much yet, but I'm sure it's better than it is with JAWS and
windows. I've definitely noticed that we've most certainly got
something as far as accessibility. All I can say is, the Mac rocks,
and it is totally awesome. O
It's rediculous that they're suing Apple for lac of accessibility.
Makes not one bit of sense
on 23-Jan-08, at 7:27 AM, Shaun Jones wrote:
They will not recommend a Apple to anyone needing accessibility but
they are willing to sue for the lack there of. That doesn't make
since. Can you give me the firm's number so we can talk lawyer talk?
I have seen more advancement in accessibility on the Mac in the five
months of using it than I have when using JAWS five thru nine and
they want to sue. Why not sue Freedom Scientific for not having a
one hundred percent accessible package given the time that XP has
been out. What are we talking here isn't it going on nine years
since the release of XP?Don't they hate Apple for lack of a better
word?
On Jan 22, 2008, at 8:25 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I very much doubt the investigation will stop. It's being done by
a law firm for one thing and they're professionals. For another I
not only told them about this list and that it's high volume but
also that it's very helpful. Those are not just N.F.B. hacks doing
the investigation. They are interested in far more than just Apple
and iTunes too since I was asked some questions about work too. I
was the first person they had talked to in two years of work for
the N.F.B. that had anything positive to say about Apple.
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, Shaun Jones wrote:
I too will run Windows as well as Linux on my Mac not because I
need to, but because the technology is there for me to do it. I
love anything that is accessible because it helps me become
better. If you need help don't hesitate to contact me off list.
On Dec 22, 2007, at 4:07 PM, Renee M Zelickson wrote:
Shawn I applaud you for geting on with all the voice over
commands quickly. I have to admit that although I haven't got
them all down and still a little mixed up and don't know how to
read all in a document yet, I have to say that the Mac is much
better than the PC. I am only wanting to install windows for the
things I need to get done that I don't know how to do on the mac
anyway, I am appauld but not surprised that the NFB is
"investigating" instead of trying to use. I will say that the
Safare is not easy to navigate. but hopefully they will improve it.
Renee Zelickson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Dec 22, 2007, at 1:57 AM, Shaun Jones wrote:
> I agree with that. I have done 10 times as much as I could do
on Windows > in 4 months of using the Mac. Just about every
software I have used has > been accessible through the menus, GUI
or both. I wonder what > conversations that FS or JAWS users have
had with Apple in this regards? > Probably none
> On Dec 21, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Joshua Tubbs wrote:
> > > I completely disagree with the action that NFB is taking!
While I've > > only had my Mac for almost a weak now, I hate the
NFB not attempting to > > even use a bloody Mac and see if it is
accessible. They just take jaws > > through it's paces because
they claim that it's the number one screen > > reader on the
planet. I'm sorry, but in terms of stabibility, learning, > >
etc, I think VoiceOver is the now number one screen reader.
Perhaps if > > Microsoft would take the steps that Apple takes,
jaws won't be needed > > If people are willing to take at least
two days out of there lives they > > could easily learn
VoiceOver. I started downloading skype the first > > time I got
my hands on this baby, so it's not like it's all that hard. > >
VoiceOver is so easy your grandmother could use it without
reading the > > manual. I haven't read the quick start tutorial
yet and I feel that I > > still have a lot to learn, but Apple in
my oppinion is way ahead of > > Microsoft.
> > > > That's my oppinion on the issue.
> > On Dec 21, 2007, at 12:26 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
> > > > > I'd like to ask them to stop.
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jude DaShiell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 12:08 PM
> > > Subject: n.f.b. ITunes investigation
> > > > > > > > > A message was sent out on the electronics-talk
mailing list to the > > > effect
> > > that all of ITunes is being investigated by the national
federation > > > of the
> > > blind for accessibility. Anyone wishing to provide
assistance can > > > contact
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
