Shawn I applaud you for geting on with all the voice over commands quickly. I have to admit that although I haven't got them all down and still a little mixed up and don't know how to read all in a document yet, I have to say that the Mac is much better than the PC. I am only wanting to install windows for the things I need to get done that I don't know how to do on the mac anyway, I am appauld but not surprised that the NFB is "investigating" instead of trying to use. I will say that the Safare is not easy to navigate. but hopefully they will improve it.

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On Dec 22, 2007, at 1:57 AM, Shaun Jones wrote:

I agree with that. I have done 10 times as much as I could do on Windows in 4 months of using the Mac. Just about every software I have used has been accessible through the menus, GUI or both. I wonder what conversations that FS or JAWS users have had with Apple in this regards? Probably none
On Dec 21, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Joshua Tubbs wrote:

I completely disagree with the action that NFB is taking! While I've only had my Mac for almost a weak now, I hate the NFB not attempting to even use a bloody Mac and see if it is accessible. They just take jaws through it's paces because they claim that it's the number one screen reader on the planet. I'm sorry, but in terms of stabibility, learning, etc, I think VoiceOver is the now number one screen reader. Perhaps if Microsoft would take the steps that Apple takes, jaws won't be needed If people are willing to take at least two days out of there lives they could easily learn VoiceOver. I started downloading skype the first time I got my hands on this baby, so it's not like it's all that hard. VoiceOver is so easy your grandmother could use it without reading the manual. I haven't read the quick start tutorial yet and I feel that I still have a lot to learn, but Apple in my oppinion is way ahead of Microsoft.

That's my oppinion on the issue.
On Dec 21, 2007, at 12:26 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

I'd like to ask them to stop.

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