I didn't say it could not be done.  In an earlier message, I said that there 
is no incentive.

----- Original Message ----- 
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I understand that David, but, you're missing my point.  I meant in a more
bigger picture:  if it could be done, gutted or not, then why couldn't Apple
do the same for their own product.  That was all I was saying.

Chris.


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> rockbox guts the IPod to get everything in.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Gilland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:58 PM
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>
> speaking of IPods, why can't they put some form of speech like voiceover
> into IPods.  I mean come on, if it could be done with Rockbox, then,
> surely
> Apple could do it with their own product.
>
> Why should it be our! burden.
>
> Chris.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> theblind" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:37 PM
> Subject: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening
>
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>> Hi CB, there are two ways this could be done.  Apple could engineer an ui
>> and back it with vo or a 3rd party could develop an app that talks.
>> there
>> is a hardware device for the IPod called ITel I think that achieves at
>> least
>> part of this for the IPod.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chris Blouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
>> theblind" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: iTunes strange happening
>>
>>
>> So out of curiosity, how would you make an iPhone accessible? Obviously
>> it needs a speech engine, but how do you interact? There is no tactile
>> UI. I think it's a lot like a touch screen kiosk and some have simple
>> instructions saying to touch the top left for yes or top right for no.
>> That kind of interaction model doesn't scale very well for complex
>> interaction like typing an email . Not making excuses for Apple but this
>> seems like a tough nut to crack.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>
>>> 22 jul 2008 kl. 05.10 skrev UCLA Bruins Fan:
>>>
>>>> I did bring this to an apple agents attention when I was calling
>>>> about another issue and was told that apple would "look into it" This
>>>> was in June, and appparently nothing has been resolved as of now.
>>>
>>> But seriously, what do you expect with all this Iphone business going
>>> on? I'm sorry to sound like i do, but it has always been like this
>>> that snassy flashy looks has been prioritized over functionality and
>>> accessibility. To be frank, i'm surprised that we have such a well
>>> functioning screen reader as we have.
>>>
>>> With all this said, i agree that the dialog in question should be
>>> usable, i just wonder what the best way to get there is. If we  get
>>> angry and demanding, we will only be regarded as whiners and
>>> complainers and if we ask politely, not much seems to happen.
>>>
>>> /Krister
>>>
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