Felix says, arrange a tour of the facility. For a bunch of blind people. And then ask if (we) can sit down and talk to the research/development team leader to discuss ideas for better accessibility.
We live about 70 miles north of Cupertino. Just brainstorming. janet ---------------------------------------- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:33:14 -0400 > > Sure. Cupertino, here I come. LOL. :) I have to go up to the bay area > in October, so how about it? :) > I wish there was a way we could all camp out, but somehow I doubt it > would be effective. > > On Jul 22, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Mike's Western Account wrote: > >> hey lets camp out side apple's hq untel something's done more with >> there media devises, lol >> On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Chris Gilland wrote: >> >>> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike's Western Account" >>> >>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>> OS X by theblind" >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:00 PM >>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening >>> >>> >>>> i think that we just need to go to apple and make things get >>>> done;) lol >>>> On Jul 22, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Chris Gilland wrote: >>>> >>>>> speaking of IPods, why can't they put some form of speech like >>>>> voiceover into IPods. I mean come on, if it could be done with >>>>> Rockbox, then, surely Apple could do it with their own product. >>>>> >>>>> Why should it be our! burden. >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" >>>>> >>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>>>> OS Xby theblind" >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:37 PM >>>>> Subject: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi CB, there are two ways this could be done. Apple could >>>>>> engineer an ui >>>>>> and back it with vo or a 3rd party could develop an app that >>>>>> talks. there >>>>>> is a hardware device for the IPod called ITel I think that >>>>>> achieves at least >>>>>> part of this for the IPod. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Blouch" >>>>>> >>>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of >>>>>> Mac OS X by >>>>>> theblind" >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:33 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: iTunes strange happening >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So out of curiosity, how would you make an iPhone accessible? >>>>>> Obviously >>>>>> it needs a speech engine, but how do you interact? There is no >>>>>> tactile >>>>>> UI. I think it's a lot like a touch screen kiosk and some have >>>>>> simple >>>>>> instructions saying to touch the top left for yes or top right >>>>>> for no. >>>>>> That kind of interaction model doesn't scale very well for complex >>>>>> interaction like typing an email . Not making excuses for Apple >>>>>> but this >>>>>> seems like a tough nut to crack. >>>>>> >>>>>> CB >>>>>> >>>>>> Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 22 jul 2008 kl. 05.10 skrev UCLA Bruins Fan: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I did bring this to an apple agents attention when I was calling >>>>>>>> about another issue and was told that apple would "look into >>>>>>>> it" This >>>>>>>> was in June, and appparently nothing has been resolved as of >>>>>>>> now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But seriously, what do you expect with all this Iphone >>>>>>> business going >>>>>>> on? I'm sorry to sound like i do, but it has always been like >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> that snassy flashy looks has been prioritized over >>>>>>> functionality and >>>>>>> accessibility. To be frank, i'm surprised that we have such a >>>>>>> well >>>>>>> functioning screen reader as we have. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With all this said, i agree that the dialog in question should be >>>>>>> usable, i just wonder what the best way to get there is. If we >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> angry and demanding, we will only be regarded as whiners and >>>>>>> complainers and if we ask politely, not much seems to happen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /Krister >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_family_safety_072008
