I agree, we need a law but this strays. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike's Western Account" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:45 PM Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening
good point, and i dont know i just guess i'm starting to get a bit mad that well, there isn't a need for apple really relistically to do this, so us blind people are being made to take the blunt of this On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:42 AM, David Poehlman wrote: > I didn't say it could not be done. In an earlier message, I said > that there > is no incentive. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Gilland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > Xby > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening > > > I understand that David, but, you're missing my point. I meant in a > more > bigger picture: if it could be done, gutted or not, then why > couldn't Apple > do the same for their own product. That was all I was saying. > > Chris. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > Xby > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening > > >> rockbox guts the IPod to get everything in. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris Gilland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >> OS Xby >> theblind" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:58 PM >> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening >> >> >> speaking of IPods, why can't they put some form of speech like >> voiceover >> into IPods. I mean come on, if it could be done with Rockbox, then, >> surely >> Apple could do it with their own product. >> >> Why should it be our! burden. >> >> Chris. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >> OS Xby >> theblind" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:37 PM >> Subject: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening >> >> >>> Hi CB, there are two ways this could be done. Apple could >>> engineer an ui >>> and back it with vo or a 3rd party could develop an app that talks. >>> there >>> is a hardware device for the IPod called ITel I think that >>> achieves at >>> least >>> part of this for the IPod. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Chris Blouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>> OS X by >>> theblind" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:33 PM >>> Subject: Re: iTunes strange happening >>> >>> >>> So out of curiosity, how would you make an iPhone accessible? >>> Obviously >>> it needs a speech engine, but how do you interact? There is no >>> tactile >>> UI. I think it's a lot like a touch screen kiosk and some have >>> simple >>> instructions saying to touch the top left for yes or top right for >>> no. >>> That kind of interaction model doesn't scale very well for complex >>> interaction like typing an email . Not making excuses for Apple >>> but this >>> seems like a tough nut to crack. >>> >>> CB >>> >>> Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> >>>> 22 jul 2008 kl. 05.10 skrev UCLA Bruins Fan: >>>> >>>>> I did bring this to an apple agents attention when I was calling >>>>> about another issue and was told that apple would "look into it" >>>>> This >>>>> was in June, and appparently nothing has been resolved as of now. >>>> >>>> But seriously, what do you expect with all this Iphone business >>>> going >>>> on? I'm sorry to sound like i do, but it has always been like this >>>> that snassy flashy looks has been prioritized over functionality >>>> and >>>> accessibility. To be frank, i'm surprised that we have such a well >>>> functioning screen reader as we have. >>>> >>>> With all this said, i agree that the dialog in question should be >>>> usable, i just wonder what the best way to get there is. If we get >>>> angry and demanding, we will only be regarded as whiners and >>>> complainers and if we ask politely, not much seems to happen. >>>> >>>> /Krister >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
