I live in a dinky little apartment! But something could be arranged somehow!
I did a map directions search from our place to the facility. It is just over 71 miles, and 1 hour 25 minutes travel time driving, one way. Because of driving through the city. So I'm not sure we're the most convenient of locations. We do have friends who live closer to Cupertino who might be willing to allow us to use their house as a base. We'd have to do some checking. janet ---------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:01:58 -0800 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening > To: [email protected] > > and can we use your house as a base? > On Jul 22, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Janet and Felix * wrote: > >> >> Felix says, arrange a tour of the facility. For a bunch of blind >> people. And then ask if (we) can sit down and talk to the research/ >> development team leader to discuss ideas for better accessibility. >> >> We live about 70 miles north of Cupertino. >> >> Just brainstorming. >> janet >> >> ---------------------------------------- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening >>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:33:14 -0400 >>> >>> Sure. Cupertino, here I come. LOL. :) I have to go up to the bay area >>> in October, so how about it? :) >>> I wish there was a way we could all camp out, but somehow I doubt it >>> would be effective. >>> >>> On Jul 22, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Mike's Western Account wrote: >>> >>>> hey lets camp out side apple's hq untel something's done more with >>>> there media devises, lol >>>> On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Chris Gilland wrote: >>>> >>>>> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike's Western Account">>> >>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>>>> OS X by theblind" >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:00 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange >>>>> happening >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> i think that we just need to go to apple and make things get >>>>>> done;) lol >>>>>> On Jul 22, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Chris Gilland wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> speaking of IPods, why can't they put some form of speech like >>>>>>> voiceover into IPods. I mean come on, if it could be done with >>>>>>> Rockbox, then, surely Apple could do it with their own product. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why should it be our! burden. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman">>>>> >>>>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>>>>>> OS Xby theblind" >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:37 PM >>>>>>> Subject: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi CB, there are two ways this could be done. Apple could >>>>>>>> engineer an ui >>>>>>>> and back it with vo or a 3rd party could develop an app that >>>>>>>> talks. there >>>>>>>> is a hardware device for the IPod called ITel I think that >>>>>>>> achieves at least >>>>>>>> part of this for the IPod. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Blouch" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of >>>>>>>> Mac OS X by >>>>>>>> theblind" >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:33 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: iTunes strange happening >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So out of curiosity, how would you make an iPhone accessible? >>>>>>>> Obviously >>>>>>>> it needs a speech engine, but how do you interact? There is no >>>>>>>> tactile >>>>>>>> UI. I think it's a lot like a touch screen kiosk and some have >>>>>>>> simple >>>>>>>> instructions saying to touch the top left for yes or top right >>>>>>>> for no. >>>>>>>> That kind of interaction model doesn't scale very well for >>>>>>>> complex >>>>>>>> interaction like typing an email . Not making excuses for Apple >>>>>>>> but this >>>>>>>> seems like a tough nut to crack. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 22 jul 2008 kl. 05.10 skrev UCLA Bruins Fan: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I did bring this to an apple agents attention when I was >>>>>>>>>> calling >>>>>>>>>> about another issue and was told that apple would "look into >>>>>>>>>> it" This >>>>>>>>>> was in June, and appparently nothing has been resolved as of >>>>>>>>>> now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But seriously, what do you expect with all this Iphone >>>>>>>>> business going >>>>>>>>> on? I'm sorry to sound like i do, but it has always been like >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> that snassy flashy looks has been prioritized over >>>>>>>>> functionality and >>>>>>>>> accessibility. To be frank, i'm surprised that we have such a >>>>>>>>> well >>>>>>>>> functioning screen reader as we have. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With all this said, i agree that the dialog in question >>>>>>>>> should be >>>>>>>>> usable, i just wonder what the best way to get there is. If we >>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>> angry and demanding, we will only be regarded as whiners and >>>>>>>>> complainers and if we ask politely, not much seems to happen. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /Krister >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. >> http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_family_safety_072008 > > _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm
