David, I'm all for this idea, which is partially what prompts my
previous questions. How can / should this be gone about?… If this
topic btw, is too OT, then please do let me know, and I'd be happy to
continue this off list, or even create a list specifically for this
issue, as I really honestly do think this is of paramount importance.
Smiles,
C-Quinn :)
On Oct 17, 2008, at 12:25 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
It is my understanding that adobe is one of the members of the new
accessible software initiative that is sponsored in part by microsoft.
perhaps we need to be really public about what is happening and what
needs
to happen.
I've been telling site developers who come to me with requests for
information on accessibility that flash does not work for us on the
Mac and
that this is of concern because a growing number of us are finding
it an
affordable solution which is accessible in many other ways.
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From: "Jacob Schmude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
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theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: why won't this read on mac
Hi
Well, looking at it realistically, about the only thing we can do is
bug the hell out of Adobe until they get sick of us I guess :).
Seriously, Flash is a closed source product, so we can't change it.
Apple can't do it on their own because the flashplayer, which Apple
has no rights to, does not expose any of the flash content--it does
expose that there's a flash object there, reported by an unknown in
recent builds of Webkit, but no content is exposed through it.
Basically, Apple and Adobe might have to work together on this, so
let's bug them relentlessly--both Adobe and Apple--and maybe something
will happen. I'm suggesting bugging Apple as well, since maybe it will
take a big boy like Apple to get Adobe moving as none of us have had
any luck so far and in fact some of us have been derided for wanting
flash accessibility on OS X--derided, I might add, by Adobe
themselves. According to Adobe we should just be using Windows, and no
one wants Flash accessibility on the Mac anyway--in other words, no
demand for it. Which doesn't make sense as there's obviously some
demand or we wouldn't be bothering to email them about it.
Either that or cross our fingers that one of the opensource flash
replacements will eventually achieve full compatibility with the
current state of flash... I'm not going to hold my breath on that one
though.
Interesting question I was pondering: exactly how much for
accessibility has Adobe done on the windows side? I'm stressing Adobe
here, as back when flash was being made accessible it was still owned
and developed by Macromedia, and I haven't seen much improvement in
the intervening time since at least not in Flash itself. Completely
unrelated to Flash access on OS X, just a question I was pondering.
On Oct 17, 2008, at 11:30, Cara Quinn wrote:
I was thinking about this again this morning, and there's simply
got to be something we can do about this?…
I mean Flash is here, it's going to stay and until the next similar
tech in web design shows itself, we're going to be left out in the
cold as Mac / VO / Safari users if something isn't done. This to me
at least, is simply unacceptable. Something really does need to
change here, and fast.
I absolutely *do not* want to go to Windows so that I can browse
flash content. There's just no reason for it.
What, in people's opinions can we do about this?… How can this be
approached / dealt with?…
I for one, absolutely *need* flash access, so just asking sites not
to use it is moot.
Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud here in hopes that peeps might
chime in with opinions / ideas and such.
Thanks so much for taking time to read this and I hope you all are
having a wonderful day!
Smiles,
Cara :)
On Oct 17, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Because it's one big blob of Flash.
CB
Will Lomas wrote:
hi i wonder why this site
http://www.clairescareers.co.uk/
won't read on the mac
again all i get is HTML content no interaction possible even when
i trick safari into thinking it is internet explorer
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