Hi C B, They do not mention mac accessibility at all as far as I know.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Blouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:59 PM Subject: Re: why won't this read on mac Seems like if NFB can get $250K out of Apple for its issues with iTunes accessibility then Adobe should be concerned over its Flash accessibility. Now I'm not a Flash dev but what I've heard is that there is something you have to enable to add the accessibility stuff, but that option is somewhat buried in the developer UI, is off by default, and adds some weight to the overall download. Also, like any GUI, the built-in widgets supposedly have a lot of accessibility (if turned on) but many Flash devs make their own and don't bother. All this said, I don't believe they have any of this working for the Mac unless something changed with Flash 10. CB Cara Quinn wrote: > Jacob, thanks very much for your in-depth note. I'm wondering, why > on earth would Adobe chide anyone for wanting access to their > products?… I mean, saying that basically nobody wants Flash access on > Mac is a bit over the top, is it not?… Sighted people whom use > Safari, simply have access to this as a matter of course on a day to > day basis, so something seriously seems amiss here with this kind of > attitude?… > > <smile> Not to play two ends against the middle here, so to speak, > but isn't this the sort of thing that the NFB / ACB should be > interested in?… I mean, this is a rather largeish corporation > blatantly locking out a segment of the population, is it not?… -All > be it, a smallish one, but a segment just the same, and based on a > disability, no less. > > Sounds like a shameless stereotypical discriminatory act to me… > > -Opinions?… > > Have a great day!… > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > On Oct 17, 2008, at 12:16 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote: > >> Hi >> Well, looking at it realistically, about the only thing we can do is >> bug the hell out of Adobe until they get sick of us I guess :). >> Seriously, Flash is a closed source product, so we can't change it. >> Apple can't do it on their own because the flashplayer, which Apple >> has no rights to, does not expose any of the flash content--it does >> expose that there's a flash object there, reported by an unknown in >> recent builds of Webkit, but no content is exposed through it. >> Basically, Apple and Adobe might have to work together on this, so >> let's bug them relentlessly--both Adobe and Apple--and maybe >> something will happen. I'm suggesting bugging Apple as well, since >> maybe it will take a big boy like Apple to get Adobe moving as none >> of us have had any luck so far and in fact some of us have been >> derided for wanting flash accessibility on OS X--derided, I might >> add, by Adobe themselves. According to Adobe we should just be using >> Windows, and no one wants Flash accessibility on the Mac anyway--in >> other words, no demand for it. Which doesn't make sense as there's >> obviously some demand or we wouldn't be bothering to email them about >> it. >> Either that or cross our fingers that one of the opensource flash >> replacements will eventually achieve full compatibility with the >> current state of flash... I'm not going to hold my breath on that one >> though. >> Interesting question I was pondering: exactly how much for >> accessibility has Adobe done on the windows side? I'm stressing Adobe >> here, as back when flash was being made accessible it was still owned >> and developed by Macromedia, and I haven't seen much improvement in >> the intervening time since at least not in Flash itself. Completely >> unrelated to Flash access on OS X, just a question I was pondering. >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2008, at 11:30, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >>> I was thinking about this again this morning, and there's simply got >>> to be something we can do about this?… >>> >>> I mean Flash is here, it's going to stay and until the next similar >>> tech in web design shows itself, we're going to be left out in the >>> cold as Mac / VO / Safari users if something isn't done. This to me >>> at least, is simply unacceptable. Something really does need to >>> change here, and fast. >>> >>> I absolutely *do not* want to go to Windows so that I can browse >>> flash content. There's just no reason for it. >>> >>> What, in people's opinions can we do about this?… How can this be >>> approached / dealt with?… >>> >>> I for one, absolutely *need* flash access, so just asking sites not >>> to use it is moot. >>> >>> Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud here in hopes that peeps might >>> chime in with opinions / ideas and such. >>> >>> Thanks so much for taking time to read this and I hope you all are >>> having a wonderful day! >>> >>> Smiles, >>> >>> Cara :) >>> >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>> >>>> Because it's one big blob of Flash. >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> Will Lomas wrote: >>>>> hi i wonder why this site >>>>> http://www.clairescareers.co.uk/ >>>>> >>>>> won't read on the mac >>>>> again all i get is HTML content no interaction possible even when >>>>> i trick safari into thinking it is internet explorer >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> --- >>> View my Online Portfolio at: >>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >>> >>> >> >> > > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >
