Hi Arthur,

You wrote:
Hi, can someone fill me in on what webkit is, and how to get it? someone mentioned a nightly build, does that mean this is an open- source component?

WebKit is the engine that a number of browsers, including Safari, uses and yes, it is an Open Source project. This means that some corrections to accessibility issues in Safari rely on fixing WebKit. When we access the nightly WebKit builds, we're getting the most current version of the work in progress on WebKit. This doesn't mean that the version is bug-free. In fact, some time in early September they managed to introduce an access key redefinition that conflicts with the VoiceOver keys (but they've also been told there's a problem and are putting in place a fix). However, generally speaking, the current nightly builds have fixed a lot of the accessibility problems that were still present in the version of WebKit used in the last version of Safari. So this is a works in progress of the current development of WebKit, and every night the latest version is released. We're using this both to get the benefit of the intermediate stage fixes, and also to give feedback and report potential accessibility problems to the folks working on WebKit.

The easiest way to get the WebKit nightly builds is to use a free program called NightShift from:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/18700
Just make one change in the default settings: go to preferences and change the Nightly build URL to:
http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/latest/mac
You can read more about this program in the following post from the archives, but I think I've covered all the important details
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg44436.html

Cheers,

Esther



----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: webkit


Hi Mike,

Yes, if you start up WebKit it will look as though Safari is running, except that things like VO-Shift-M on Web page links will bring up the contextual menu and other such fixes. You really are running Safari, but the underlying engine powering it has some fixes. On the slightly negative side (for me), the access keys for the Mail Archive site for this list at:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/

don't work under WebKit right now, so I can't use Control-I to shift the list of posts to a set of links indexed by date, and Control-C to shift the listing back to links ordered by content into threads. (Or navigate through threads to read the next post with Control-n and the previous post with Control-p; or use the analogous commands of Control- f and Control-b to move forwards or back by date). This went away in September, but the fix will appear in an upcoming WebKit build. Until then, I fire up Safari to read and search the Mailing List archives for this list, but use WebKit for most everything else web-related.

Cheers,

Esther


On Nov 14, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Hi everyone. I decided to give the latest nightly build of web kit a try, one thing I noticed, when running the webkit application, it shows as safari, and even calls itself safari 3.1, is safari still loading but using the newer web kit engine instead? So far, it's working really well.






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