...and the obvious response is if opera can do it, mozilla can do it. Way to go Operasoftware!
oh, if you want another killer page, try: http://www.empowermentzone.com I'll take opera for a spin and am interested to see why the speed is so different. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Schmude" <[email protected]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: Opera (was Re: firefox, mozilla and voiceover:) Hi there Opera does still have some glaring Voiceover problems. The biggest one is that pop-up buttons will not speak at all, so selecting values in most forms is impossible. there are other minor issues, but this is the big one. By contrast, multi-select lists usually work quite well in Opera. The actual performance of Opera with Voiceover is blazing fast, in many cases much faster than Safari. To get an idea of how fast Opera is, visit www.blindcooltech.com with both Safari and Opera. If that's not a huge page that tests Voiceover's limits in Safari, I don't know what is--not complex, just ridiculously massive. Safari takes about twenty seconds to interact with it on my Macbook 2.4ghz. Opera takes about five seconds. In most normal-sized pages, where Safari takes several seconds to interact, opera is instantaneous. The other minor issues include not supporting a lot of navigation keys--no headings, and the like. It's very much like browsing in Tiger, though much faster. It also doesn't support Voiceover's grouped mode, and if you have group mode turned on the page gets extremely out of order. The Dom in opera seems to order things differently in any case, so it's probably confusing Voiceover's grouping function. Voiceover gets a two-dimensional view of the page in Opera anyway, even without group mode. All in all, if it weren't for that pop-up button bug, I'd probably switch to Opera as my main browser. The navigation keys aren't a big deal for me--they're nice to have, but so many pages don't have good navigation coded in anyway that I usually forget they're there. Opera says they're looking into the pop-up button issue, so hopefully we'll get a fix in the near future.
