well that's disgusting to b honest
shame on them

On 28 Dec 2008, at 17:04, Jacob Schmude wrote:

Webvisum are flatly refusing to develop for any browser except for firefox. Period.



On Dec 28, 2008, at 12:03, Will Lomas wrote:

wish web vissum worked with opera

On 28 Dec 2008, at 17:00, David Poehlman wrote:

...and the obvious response is if opera can do it, mozilla can do it.

Way to go Operasoftware!

oh, if you want another killer page, try:
http://www.empowermentzone.com

I'll take opera for a spin and am interested to see why the speed is so
different.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Schmude" <[email protected]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:55 AM
Subject: Opera (was Re: firefox, mozilla and voiceover:)


Hi there
Opera does still have some glaring Voiceover problems. The biggest one
is that pop-up buttons will not speak at all, so selecting values in
most forms is impossible. there are other minor issues, but this is
the big one. By contrast, multi-select lists usually work quite well
in Opera.
The actual performance of Opera with Voiceover is blazing fast, in
many cases much faster than Safari. To get an idea of how fast Opera
is, visit www.blindcooltech.com with both Safari and Opera. If that's not a huge page that tests Voiceover's limits in Safari, I don't know
what is--not complex, just ridiculously massive. Safari takes about
twenty seconds to interact with it on my Macbook 2.4ghz. Opera takes
about five seconds. In most normal-sized pages, where Safari takes
several seconds to interact, opera is instantaneous.
The other minor issues include not supporting a lot of navigation
keys--no headings, and the like. It's very much like browsing in
Tiger, though much faster. It also doesn't support Voiceover's grouped mode, and if you have group mode turned on the page gets extremely out
of order. The Dom in opera seems to order things differently in any
case, so it's probably confusing Voiceover's grouping function.
Voiceover gets a two-dimensional view of the page in Opera anyway,
even without group mode.
All in all, if it weren't for that pop-up button bug, I'd probably
switch to Opera as my main browser. The navigation keys aren't a big
deal for me--they're nice to have, but so many pages don't have good
navigation coded in anyway that I usually forget they're there. Opera says they're looking into the pop-up button issue, so hopefully we'll
get a fix in the near future.







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