True, I guess I was just taken that as a given that we were talking
about VO's interaction with the browser. Sorry, should have clarified.
On Dec 28, 2008, at 16:04, Cara Quinn wrote:
just to add my two cents to the kitty, the busy signals one gets
while loading pages in Safari, are actually due to VO and not
Safari. I.e. I've had plenty of times where Safari would
supposedly be reporting as busy and the page was up just fine with
the mouse able to move within it. so this seems like a differing
issue concerning the relationship between the browser and VO?…
Smiles,
Cara :)
On Dec 28, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Hi there
Opera does still have some glaring Voiceover problems. The biggest
one is that pop-up buttons will not speak at all, so selecting
values in most forms is impossible. there are other minor issues,
but this is the big one. By contrast, multi-select lists usually
work quite well in Opera.
The actual performance of Opera with Voiceover is blazing fast, in
many cases much faster than Safari. To get an idea of how fast
Opera is, visit www.blindcooltech.com with both Safari and Opera.
If that's not a huge page that tests Voiceover's limits in Safari,
I don't know what is--not complex, just ridiculously massive.
Safari takes about twenty seconds to interact with it on my Macbook
2.4ghz. Opera takes about five seconds. In most normal-sized pages,
where Safari takes several seconds to interact, opera is
instantaneous.
The other minor issues include not supporting a lot of navigation
keys--no headings, and the like. It's very much like browsing in
Tiger, though much faster. It also doesn't support Voiceover's
grouped mode, and if you have group mode turned on the page gets
extremely out of order. The Dom in opera seems to order things
differently in any case, so it's probably confusing Voiceover's
grouping function. Voiceover gets a two-dimensional view of the
page in Opera anyway, even without group mode.
All in all, if it weren't for that pop-up button bug, I'd probably
switch to Opera as my main browser. The navigation keys aren't a
big deal for me--they're nice to have, but so many pages don't have
good navigation coded in anyway that I usually forget they're
there. Opera says they're looking into the pop-up button issue, so
hopefully we'll get a fix in the near future.
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