I guess this is corrected if you turn vo off and back on? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Schmude" <[email protected]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:10 PM Subject: Re: Opera (was Re: firefox, mozilla and voiceover:)
True, I guess I was just taken that as a given that we were talking about VO's interaction with the browser. Sorry, should have clarified. On Dec 28, 2008, at 16:04, Cara Quinn wrote: > just to add my two cents to the kitty, the busy signals one gets > while loading pages in Safari, are actually due to VO and not > Safari. I.e. I've had plenty of times where Safari would > supposedly be reporting as busy and the page was up just fine with > the mouse able to move within it. so this seems like a differing > issue concerning the relationship between the browser and VO?… > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > > > On Dec 28, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Jacob Schmude wrote: > >> Hi there >> Opera does still have some glaring Voiceover problems. The biggest >> one is that pop-up buttons will not speak at all, so selecting >> values in most forms is impossible. there are other minor issues, >> but this is the big one. By contrast, multi-select lists usually >> work quite well in Opera. >> The actual performance of Opera with Voiceover is blazing fast, in >> many cases much faster than Safari. To get an idea of how fast >> Opera is, visit www.blindcooltech.com with both Safari and Opera. >> If that's not a huge page that tests Voiceover's limits in Safari, >> I don't know what is--not complex, just ridiculously massive. >> Safari takes about twenty seconds to interact with it on my Macbook >> 2.4ghz. Opera takes about five seconds. In most normal-sized pages, >> where Safari takes several seconds to interact, opera is >> instantaneous. >> The other minor issues include not supporting a lot of navigation >> keys--no headings, and the like. It's very much like browsing in >> Tiger, though much faster. It also doesn't support Voiceover's >> grouped mode, and if you have group mode turned on the page gets >> extremely out of order. The Dom in opera seems to order things >> differently in any case, so it's probably confusing Voiceover's >> grouping function. Voiceover gets a two-dimensional view of the >> page in Opera anyway, even without group mode. >> All in all, if it weren't for that pop-up button bug, I'd probably >> switch to Opera as my main browser. The navigation keys aren't a >> big deal for me--they're nice to have, but so many pages don't have >> good navigation coded in anyway that I usually forget they're >> there. Opera says they're looking into the pop-up button issue, so >> hopefully we'll get a fix in the near future. >> > > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair. --Douglas Adams
