Daniel Carrera wrote:

Andrew Brown wrote:
It's good that it's changed -- and it seems to me that the change will be in the m88 builds, which are not quite yet out. But let's not be too smug about MS here. This kind of public beta is what we have to do instead of usability labs. And I think it's obvious that they would change anything that got feedback as bad in the usabilty labs as the castrated quickstarter did.

Also remember that it took 200 votes to have it changed. It became the single most requested feature in IZ before a developer did what ammounted to less than an hour's work.
I think we should expect more responsiveness than this.



Hi Daniel, It's refreshing to hear you maintaining that position.

This whole issue was mad from the beginning. I will object any "usability lab" that produce such anti-usability decisions like this. Even more if the "reason" argued is to "comply with Windows UI rules", is absolutely nonsense, since the former quickstart was as compliant as this one (or more).

Two hundred votes to restore an existing function!!
How many votes are needed to actually add some new functionality to OOO? Anything that will need some days of thinking and work? It seems that some specs are enforced more that others (to paraphrase Orwell's Napoleon)


Perhaps you may raise a concern at the Community Council about developer bias, and the validity of that usability labs. As Andrew points out, these newsgroups and mailing lists are a quite direct indication of what users consider "usable".

I am not blaming SUN developers. After using OOo 2.0b for some weeks now, I appreciate more and more subtle but good changes (in adittion to the big ones, like toolbars etc.).

- Enrique -



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