You are correct- all 2TP is definitely not bad. I did a project last summer where I streamed 12 30FPS live cameras from Sturgis SD for 2 weeks. It was a subscription based deal- a certain fee got you a T Shirt and unlimited access to all the feeds. I could have never streamed all that, so I used a stream host.
The most reasonable host I could find was a service called Abacast. They actually use a PtP technology to keep costs down. I fed to them, they streamed out. The application keeps track of the speed of the connections to the users and the quality they are getting. If a user has extra bandwidth, he may actually be PtP streaming it to one or more users. The stream source switches around for optimization. Because of this, Abacast was a fraction of the cost it would have been for dedicated streams and the end result was just as good. I have no idea what ports were used or if it was a variant or Torrent or any of the others, but it worked well. The event isn't operating now and neither are the streams, but you can see the web page at http://fullthrottlewebcams.tv <http://fullthrottlewebcams.tv/> Ralph N4NEQ _____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bao Q. Nguyen Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:39 PM To: Matt Fanady Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCFN] Normal Heights Node offline. perhaps for good. In my opinion from working with large "open" network. P2P shouldn't be immediately classify as the "bad guy" or the "abusive" user because I strongly believe that is what the recording industry and alike want everyone to think. Bittorrent or what not they are just a service, with a service you can do what ever that you needed to do on it. You can not immediately label DVD-R as a privacy device or tape, because they are just a tool, a meer tool. What people do with it is up to them. Until you can exactly identify the purpose of such usage, it's in my opinion that it's bias to immediately lock down the MAC or just disconnection him/her. Going down the path of labeling an "abusive" user because he using p2p is an ever ending unsolvable problem, the RIAA have been trying to do this and we will see where it will end. The RIAA back in the want to make tape illegal because it can use to copy music. It's just a false generalization. Rather, promoting the classifiable traffic that you are interested in serving is a much better approach. With that in mind, if no one is using the connection, why is it so bad that some users are taking up all the bandwidth? I do not believe that you pay less for your connection because it's not in use is it? -bn On 3/22/07, Matt Fanady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For whatever reason, I have never had any problem with users abusing my node, which has been up since late 2002. Both when I lived in Ocean Beach, and now that I live in North Park, and even here in NP, with a pretty high population density, I get several users, many regulars, but have yet to have a single problem with people abusing the system (at least not abuse via excessive p2p traffic). Not to diminish your problem at all Steve, I just find it interesting. -M@ On 3/22/07, Jason Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Mee wrote: > > The tragedy of the commons ensures that this free wireless effort is > > never a completely hassle free endeavor. Even on my street recently, > > someone has been running bittorrent which is playing havoc with my > > (wireless) voip connection ;-). > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons > > I just dealt with the same problem in my apartment building with my own > connection. My solution was to make my wired connections high priority > (TiVo), block all P2P for guests, limit bandwidth of guests connections > but make sure that DNS and VOIP got high priorities for all guests. All > unknown protocols (Layer 7 Filtering) got a very low priority. > > In that case, P2P just went away because downloading became too slow for > even free. > > -- > Jason Murphy > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > _______________________________________________ > SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List > To unsubscribe, please visit: http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org > _______________________________________________ SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List To unsubscribe, please visit: http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org
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