I guess I wasn't clear in my initial tirade about why I tore down the node.
In general, I've seen 4-6 people on the node at any given time,
sending email, surfing the web, browsing YouTube, whatever.
but then within 5 days, I saw none of the regular nodes, and I saw
six new ones online, all doing P2P at the same time.
different apps, different versions, different servers.
But they were the only apps I saw live for days at a time.
I guess the crux of my issue is that they so blatantly abused the
service, and that also I couldn't get the P2P completely blocked,
either through MW or through my Cisco with NBAR.
but when one runs across people puilling 14 mbit of P2P over ones'
wire, one tends to get irked.
-S
At 09:33 PM 3/21/2007, you wrote:
>FWIW, we do some bandwidth shaping already. M0n0wall has some built in
>rules to elevate traffic like email and ssh and push down known P2P
>(based chiefly on port numbers), leaving http in the middle. See the
>m0n0wall docs for more details.
>
>Re logging of data, I've heard it every way. You shouldn't keep logs
>because then you can't get into trouble for not providing them, or get
>sued by someone subsequently because you did provide them and shouldn't
>have. You should keep logs so you can be a responsible citizen and help
>the authorities track things down, and also show that it wasn't you. Or
>you should keep logs, but anonymize them sufficiently to show that it
>wasn't you, but you can't tell who it really was.
>
>We briefly toyed with the idea of keeping logs and making them all
>public all the time, but then it was pointed out that they could be used
>by stalkers. Currently we don't keep logs because the donated syslog
>server we were using has died. Before then we used to keep dhcp lease
>logs only. We do have limited logs on the m0n0wall gateways, but they
>expire quickly. Meraki keeps logs, and I don't know exactly what their
>policy is (though now I'll ask!).
>
>Its a fascinating topic (though not to all, as a couple of recent
>unsubscribes suggest!). I'll be happy to continue in person at tomorrow
>night's monthly meeting if anyone who attends is interested.
>http://socalfreenet.org/node/751
>
>cheers, michael
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