On Thursday, March 20, 2014 13:00:57 Michael Griesacker wrote:
> what was also said is that the history file can be edited by three people,
> and there is no tracking of that.
> So there are members, and more than one, that could edit the wiki and erase
> the history of that event, or erase the history of another members edit.

Here are the minutes that were mailed out from that day:

https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2013-January/004283.html

You can ask anyone else who was subscribed at the time to produce a copy of 
those same mails.

Are we really going to introduce paranoia and conspiracy into this? That is 
impressive.

SYNHAK only works when we members trust each other on some basic level.

I'm not even sure why I'm bothering anymore. It is clear that there is more to 
this than trying to figure out a decision making mechanism. It feels to me 
that this is just a big circlejerk of "fuck Torrie". Feel free to correct me 
if that is an inaccurate description.

> 
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Wiki editing is not totally anonymous AND has timestamps and archives so
> > we can see who changed what to what when (even if the who is just an IP
> > address). As Torrie demonstrated, saying "Anyone can put whatever on the
> > wiki and its there" is inaccurate.
> > On Mar 20, 2014 7:19 AM, "Torrie Fischer" <[email protected]>
> > 
> > wrote:
> >> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 03:19:12 Andrew Buczko wrote:
> >> > Torie, The meeting minutes from :
> >> > https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-01-01
> >> > Say nothing about "how" we decide on a proposal. The meeting minutes
> >> 
> >> only
> >> 
> >> > refer to the Proposal page:
> >> > https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
> >> > The Proposal page Has the basic rules on how we decide on proposals,
> >> 
> >> but it
> >> 
> >> > was last modified on 19 March 2014, at 16:23.
> >> > 
> >> >  Being that this is a wiki and I just verified that I can change the
> >> > 
> >> > document to say what ever I want it to say then I / we cannot trust
> >> > that
> >> > this is how it's has always  been.
> >> > 
> >> > Plus, even if it has been, I don't see consensus working in a larger
> >> 
> >> group.
> >> 
> >> https://synhak.org/w/index.php?title=Proposals&action=history
> >> 
> >> On March 20th, someone added "Andy was here"
> >> 
> >> On March 19th, I added the {{Banner_policy}} tag
> >> 
> >> On March 11th, someone added a proposal to update our address in the
> >> bylaws
> >> 
> >> On January 7th, 2013, the page was created with that whole protocol.
> >> 
> >> The only way to edit the history of a page is through direct editing of
> >> the
> >> database, which only G, Chris, and myself have access to, and there isn't
> >> a
> >> way to tell who if anyone did.
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