On 4/23/2014 2:43 PM, a l wrote:
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions proposal

It is unclear if this was consented and if so what the wording of the proposal is/was. Could someone who remembers the conversation update the minutes?
At last night's meeting, this was discussed, not consented to. At last week's meeting (04-15-2014), this was brought up as a discussion item, not a proposal. As such, last night's discussion (04-22-2014) was, technically speaking, the first meeting it was discussed as a proposal.

The proposal in question is available to view here: https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-April/008175.html

No changes to the wording of this proposal was discussed or agreed to last night. As such, this proposal will undergo the consensus process at next week's meeting.

Regarding Hacker grants: Since Torrie proposed this and will not be at meetings in the near future could someone who understands her vision please answer a few questions I have? The following is the current wording: /"I'm proposing that we allocate $5400 of our recent $15k knight foundation grant to, each month, give $150 to a hacker with great ideas who applies for it "/

* $5,400 is a lot of money to ear mark for one project with uncertain terms. It is in fact 3 years worth(at the proposed 150/mo) of hacker grants as well as over 1/3 of our total grant monies. Could we lower this dollar amount? perhaps to $1,800 offering 1 years worth of mini-grants instead. We can always revisit the idea after one year.

* What exactly is the application process and constitutes 'great ideas'. If two people apply in the same month how do we decide between them? Two in the same hour? If only one person applies does that guarantee them the money? What's the application deadline?

* Do we hand people a check for $150 or refund reciepts?

* It sounds like this is open to the public, how do we best promote this?

regards,
Andrew L


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Omar Rassi <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Regarding the hacker grants proposal, I have a question for Steve.
    Steve said, "before we spend any money, we should have a
    discussion of what we want to do with this, before we start
    spending it."
    Isn't that what we're doing with the proposed expenditure on
    funding mini-hacker grants? By discussing spending money on hacker
    grants, we are in fact discussing how we're going to spend money.
    What sort of discussion were you looking to have on this?


    On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Chris Egeland
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        The link has been properly updated.

        Here are the minutes:

        {{Infobox_meeting
        |time=7PM
        |date=$date
        |venue=48 South Summit
        |next=$next
        |previous=$previous
        }}

        = Agenda =

        * '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
        * '''Moderator:''' Becca


        == Introduction and Names ==

        * Round of introductions
        ** What is your name?
        ** What do you do?
        ** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
        * Ed, Robert R's Grampa, Retired Study of Law.
        * Jen, Stay at home mom
        * Robert, likes to invent
        * Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
        * Mike, pressed the button
        * STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
        * Matt, updates software
        * Matt, Deathray enthusiast
        * Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from
        Clev Pub Library
        * Joe, retired mechanic
        * Craig, flips cars
        * G, restores bycicles, for kiks
        * Andy, computer tomography machines
        * Chris, untapps
        * Will, gots a new phone
        * Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service,
        with MAtt, G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun


        == Announcements ==
        * Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
* Informal announcement Akron Mini Maker Faire October 18th 11-4pm Akron Bublic Library, main branch
        * NAMES Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes
        working mini trains, in Michigan
        * Shop Safety tomorrow 8pm
        ** Closed toed shoes
        ** Long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
        ** long pants
        ** stick with cottons
        * Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan


        == Membership ==
        * Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't
        skype into a meeting, or join via proxy
        ** G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a
        non-tuesday enabled person?
        ** Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
        ** Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting
        to address a new member app.



        == Financial Report ==
        * Funds in bank:
        none reported

        == Proposals ==

        * no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key
        restrictions proposal

        open: proposals -see proposal page
        https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals

        * Hacker Grants
        ** Becca- would like to see a proposal that focusses on the
        greatest good with the grant money, instead of whittling down
        until we come up with a great idea that we don't have money
        for any more.
        ** Matt, Mozilla is broke from funding women programmers
        ** Robert's Gpaw- that's the Govt's governance that put a hole
        in the bottom of that boat.
        ** Steve-before we spend any money, we should have a
        discussion of what we want to do with this, before we start
        spending it.

        * Andy, machine shop walls, still getting quotes for
        materials, Carter Lumber was not so helpful as of yet
        ** wants to make a trip to Restore for steel firedoors

** Chris, do we have a plan of where doors/walls, windows, -will there be pet doors?
        ** Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.

        * Roberts Key proposal:
        ** will not be here without an adult
        ** where to keep key so it's not lost?  maybe get a key
        lanyard and hang it up where other keys are kept at home.
        ** Robert's key proposal-approved! money accepted by
        Chris/champion

        == Discussion Items ==

        * Jen -freespace for finding doors?

        * mailing address for Synhak:
        <nowiki>SynHak
        12 East Exchange St
        2nd Floor
        Akron, OH 44308</nowiki>




        On 4/23/2014 9:44 AM, Chris Egeland wrote:
        They were accidentally posted to Meetings/Template instead of
        the correct page.  I'm fixing the formatting then posting
        them on the correct page.  Give it about 10-20 minutes.

        Chris

        On 4/23/2014 8:51 AM, a l wrote:

        Where are the minutes?

        -Andrew L

        On Apr 23, 2014 8:34 AM, "Phong" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            ã "ã,"ã «ã ¡ã ¯, hakkers!

            I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-22 and
            that the minutes are posted. They are visible on the web
            at https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-22. I've also
            included them in this mail for reading at your leisure:

            {{Infobox_meeting
            |time=7PM
            |date=2014-04-22
            |venue=48 South Summit
            |next=Meetings/2014-4-29
            |previous=Meetings/2014-4-15
            }}

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