Andy, "first time" note taker was being silly. Chris didn't ask about
windows or pet doors either, just doors.


On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Andrew Buczko <[email protected]>wrote:

> * Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
> ^ I did not say that. I said "Yes, the plans are in my car, I can get them
> if you want." I don't remember anything about a pet door.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Chris Egeland <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> On 4/23/2014 2:43 PM, a l wrote:
>>
>>    * no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
>> proposal
>>
>>  It is unclear if this was consented and if so what the wording of the
>> proposal is/was. Could someone who remembers the conversation update the
>> minutes?
>>
>> At last night's meeting, this was discussed, not consented to.  At last
>> week's meeting (04-15-2014), this was brought up as a discussion item, not
>> a proposal.  As such, last night's discussion (04-22-2014) was, technically
>> speaking, the first meeting it was discussed as a proposal.
>>
>> The proposal in question is available to view here:
>> https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-April/008175.html
>>
>> No changes to the wording of this proposal was discussed or agreed to
>> last night.  As such, this proposal will undergo the consensus process at
>> next week's meeting.
>>
>>
>>  Regarding Hacker grants: Since Torrie proposed this and will not be at
>> meetings in the near future could someone who understands her vision please
>> answer a few questions I have? The following is the current wording:
>> *"I'm proposing that we allocate $5400 of our recent $15k knight
>> foundation grant to, each month, give $150 to a hacker with great ideas who
>> applies for it "*
>>
>>  * $5,400 is a lot of money to ear mark for one project with uncertain
>> terms. It is in fact 3 years worth(at the proposed 150/mo) of hacker grants
>> as well as over 1/3 of our total grant monies. Could we lower this dollar
>> amount? perhaps to $1,800 offering 1 years worth of mini-grants instead. We
>> can always revisit the idea after one year.
>>
>>  * What exactly is the application process and constitutes 'great ideas'.
>> If two people apply in the same month how do we decide between them? Two in
>> the same hour?  If only one person applies does that guarantee them the
>> money? What's the application deadline?
>>
>>  * Do we hand people a check for $150 or refund reciepts?
>>
>>  * It sounds like this is open to the public, how do we best promote this?
>>
>>  regards,
>> Andrew L
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>  Regarding the hacker grants proposal, I have a question for Steve.
>>> Steve said, "before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what
>>> we want to do with this, before we start spending it."
>>>
>>> Isn't that what we're doing with the proposed expenditure on funding
>>> mini-hacker grants? By discussing spending money on hacker grants, we are
>>> in fact discussing how we're going to spend money. What sort of discussion
>>> were you looking to have on this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Chris Egeland 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  The link has been properly updated.
>>>>
>>>> Here are the minutes:
>>>>
>>>> {{Infobox_meeting
>>>> |time=7PM
>>>> |date=$date
>>>> |venue=48 South Summit
>>>> |next=$next
>>>> |previous=$previous
>>>> }}
>>>>
>>>> = Agenda =
>>>>
>>>> * '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
>>>> * '''Moderator:''' Becca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> == Introduction and Names ==
>>>>
>>>>  * Round of introductions
>>>> ** What is your name?
>>>> ** What do you do?
>>>> ** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
>>>>  * Ed, Robert R's Grampa, Retired Study of Law.
>>>> * Jen, Stay at home mom
>>>> * Robert, likes to invent
>>>> * Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
>>>> * Mike, pressed the button
>>>> * STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
>>>> * Matt, updates software
>>>> * Matt, Deathray enthusiast
>>>> * Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from Clev Pub
>>>> Library
>>>> * Joe, retired mechanic
>>>> * Craig, flips cars
>>>> * G, restores bycicles, for kiks
>>>> * Andy, computer tomography machines
>>>> * Chris, untapps
>>>> * Will, gots a new phone
>>>> * Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service, with
>>>> MAtt, G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> == Announcements ==
>>>> * Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
>>>> * Informal announcement Akron Mini Maker Faire October 18th  11-4pm
>>>> Akron Bublic Library, main branch
>>>> * NAMES Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes working mini
>>>> trains, in Michigan
>>>> * Shop Safety tomorrow 8pm
>>>> ** Closed toed shoes
>>>> ** Long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
>>>> ** long pants
>>>> ** stick with cottons
>>>> * Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> == Membership ==
>>>> * Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't skype
>>>> into a meeting, or join via proxy
>>>> ** G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a non-tuesday enabled
>>>> person?
>>>> ** Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
>>>> ** Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting to
>>>> address a new member app.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> == Financial Report ==
>>>> * Funds in bank:
>>>>  none reported
>>>>
>>>> == Proposals ==
>>>>
>>>> * no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
>>>> proposal
>>>>
>>>> open: proposals -see proposal page   https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
>>>>
>>>> * Hacker Grants
>>>> ** Becca- would like to see a proposal that focusses on the greatest
>>>> good with the grant money, instead of whittling down until we come up with
>>>> a great idea that we don't have money for any more.
>>>> ** Matt, Mozilla is broke from funding women programmers
>>>> ** Robert's Gpaw- that's the Govt's governance that put a hole in the
>>>> bottom of that boat.
>>>> ** Steve-before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what
>>>> we want to do with this, before we start spending it.
>>>>
>>>> * Andy, machine shop walls, still getting quotes for materials, Carter
>>>> Lumber was not so helpful as of yet
>>>> ** wants to make a trip to Restore for steel firedoors
>>>>
>>>> ** Chris, do we have a plan of where doors/walls, windows,  -will there
>>>> be pet doors?
>>>> ** Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
>>>>
>>>> * Roberts Key proposal:
>>>> ** will not be here without an adult
>>>> ** where to keep key so it's not lost?  maybe get a key lanyard and
>>>> hang it up where other keys are kept at home.
>>>> ** Robert's key proposal-approved! money accepted by Chris/champion
>>>>
>>>> == Discussion Items ==
>>>>
>>>> * Jen -freespace for finding doors?
>>>>
>>>> * mailing address for Synhak:
>>>> <nowiki>SynHak
>>>> 12 East Exchange St
>>>> 2nd Floor
>>>> Akron, OH 44308</nowiki>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/23/2014 9:44 AM, Chris Egeland wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They were accidentally posted to Meetings/Template instead of the
>>>> correct page.  I'm fixing the formatting then posting them on the correct
>>>> page.  Give it about 10-20 minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> On 4/23/2014 8:51 AM, a l wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Where are the minutes?
>>>>
>>>> -Andrew L
>>>> On Apr 23, 2014 8:34 AM, "Phong" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ã “ã‚“ã «ã ¡ã ¯, hakkers!
>>>>>
>>>>> I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-04-22 and that the
>>>>> minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
>>>>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-4-22. I've also included them
>>>>> in this mail for reading at your leisure:
>>>>>
>>>>> {{Infobox_meeting
>>>>> |time=7PM
>>>>> |date=2014-04-22
>>>>> |venue=48 South Summit
>>>>> |next=Meetings/2014-4-29
>>>>> |previous=Meetings/2014-4-15
>>>>> }}
>>>>>
>>>>> This page was automatically copied from [[Meetings/Template]] by
>>>>> [[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how meetings
>>>>> future perform, please make any modifications to [[Meetings/Template]]. If
>>>>> you would like to propose something at the meeting, send it to
>>>>> [email protected], or bring it up at a meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> = Instructions =
>>>>> * Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend if there are
>>>>> new people present.
>>>>> * '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
>>>>> * Pick a moderator and note-taker
>>>>>
>>>>> == Note-taker ==
>>>>> * Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
>>>>> ** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
>>>>> * Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting
>>>>> * Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the
>>>>> appropriate time.
>>>>> * Tell [email protected] and [email protected] if there are new
>>>>> members. If the [[treasurer]] is already present, there is no need to 
>>>>> email
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>> == Moderator ==
>>>>> * Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
>>>>> * Speak minimally yourself
>>>>> * Keep the meeting moving
>>>>> * Handle the membership voting process
>>>>> * Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this
>>>>> document, as the template may occasionally change without warning.
>>>>> ** The order of things is also important. We induct new members prior
>>>>> to proposals, so that they too may have a say in things.
>>>>>
>>>>> == Participants ==
>>>>> * Say your name the first time you speak
>>>>> * Remain on-topic
>>>>> * Remain respectful of other participants
>>>>>
>>>>> = Agenda =
>>>>>
>>>>> * '''Note Taker:''' FIXME
>>>>> * '''Moderator:''' FIXME
>>>>>
>>>>> == Introduction and Names ==
>>>>>
>>>>> * Invite a knowledgeable member to explain what SYNHAK is about, if
>>>>> anyone new is present:
>>>>> <blockquote>SYNHAK is an infrastructure provider for people who want
>>>>> to make things. SYNHAK provides space, tools, and infrastructure to help
>>>>> others learn new skills and create cool things. SYNHAK exists through and
>>>>> depends on membership dues, donations, and the hard work of individuals
>>>>> such as ourselves. Our code of conduct is "Be excellent to each
>>>>> other."</blockquote>
>>>>> * Round of introductions
>>>>> ** What is your name?
>>>>> ** What do you do?
>>>>> ** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
>>>>>
>>>>> == Announcements ==
>>>>>
>>>>> * Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
>>>>> * Any happenings that people should be aware of?
>>>>>
>>>>> == Membership ==
>>>>> * Read off any names open for application
>>>>> * Anyone eligible should:
>>>>> ** Introduce yourself
>>>>> ** Answer any questions
>>>>> ** Leave the area
>>>>> * Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
>>>>> * Applicants may return
>>>>>
>>>>> == Financial Report ==
>>>>> * Funds in bank:
>>>>>
>>>>> == Proposals ==
>>>>>
>>>>> * Check the page at [[Proposals/Open]].
>>>>>
>>>>> == Discussion Items ==
>>>>>
>>>>> If an item of discussion drags on too long, further discussion may be
>>>>> postponed until after the meeting ends.
>>>>>
>>>>> During discussion, it is not necessary to write down exactly what each
>>>>> person says. Record the topics of discussion, and any items of consensus 
>>>>> or
>>>>> controversy here. Detailed descriptions of the conversation should go on
>>>>> the discuss page for this meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> = End of Meeting =
>>>>> * Delete the "Instructions" section at the top of this page.
>>>>> * Post the notes to the wiki
>>>>> * Notify [email protected] and [email protected] about new
>>>>> members (unless they are present at the meeting)
>>>>> * Discuss any items for which there was not enough time during the
>>>>> meeting
>>>>> * Delete this bit of magical text, which lets [[User:Phong]] know that
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>>>>> <phongMinutesNotReady/>
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