Andrew is right, a CWG is an appropriate first step to a resolution before going to member removal. If we aren't willing to give that a try then it sets the precedent that member removal the rule and makes discussion, investigation, and conflict resolution the exception.
Once again an example unwillingness to listen, instead opting for the easy punitive solutions. This is going in circles, who will be the villain next after this? I'm not interested in finding out, I've got enough arguments about who said or did what, when and in which manner with my wife and kids. I'm not going to pay money trying to, as the saying goes, get the horse to water. I'm at this point stepping down as Champion and canceling my membership. I'll give my key to Andrew L at his earliest convenience and pay my last dues with any of the other champions or treasurer. Last I checked, Synhak is still open to the public, I just want to tinker on my own personal hardware and talk shop with other computer techies. Good luck to you all, I wish the best. On Apr 30, 2014 7:55 PM, "Chris Egeland" <[email protected]> wrote: > Chiming in that I will block this proposal. That is all. > > Chris Egeland > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 30, 2014, at 19:50, Steve Radonich IV <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm sorry but we do not have time to set up a CWG with all of the > procedures and such they are supposed to follow while this type of > treatment is going on. These are all publicly available on the email list > and the quotes are in no way altered. I really am failing to see your logic > in defending Torrie's actions today on the discuss list when she has been > nothing but vile towards others. > > -Steve > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:45:41 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Removal of Torrie from the SYNHAK > Community > > I'm not sure we have enough facts to back up the claims made in some of > these quotes. > Until such time that we get the community working group involved and have > all the facts rather than partial quotes and hurt feelings I cannot support > this proposal. > Regards, > Andrew L > On Apr 30, 2014 7:26 PM, "Steve Radonich IV" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Proposal: Removal Torrie from the SYNHAK Community > > I am proposing the following: > > The removal of Torrie Fischer from the SYNHAK community for the following > reasons. > > * Negatively talking about SYNHAK affecting the public opinion of the > community on the mailing lists, examples being: > > * "Never started SYNHAK, the Akron Hackerspace." - Wed, April 30 2014 > 17:09 > > * "Then I hear that I'm being removed as Treasurer due to Devin and > Andy's persecution complex, so I started looking for housing in the > San Francisco because SYNHAK is dead to me." - Wed, April 30 2014 15:59 > > * "It died months ago when I was convinced to rescind my proposal to > remove Justin from the board." - Wed, April 30 2014 15:59 > > * "Congrats! I'm so proud of everyone. We are now (in)famous within > the hacker communities." - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49 > > * "RIP SYNHAK. Killed by bystander apathy." - Wed, April 30 2014 14:29 > > * Publicly attacking Steve Radonich IV and Andy B. on the mailing list by > unjustly calling them names, examples being: > > * "Remember, folks: you voted this mental midget of a person onto the > board :)" - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49 - Directed towards Andy > > * "Remember, folks: I'm someone who should be put up with! You all > decided to go along with his plan to introduce more rules and bureaucracy > to stop someone from forcing the community to address a situation where > they feel completely unsafe!" - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49 - Directed towards > Steve > > * "A community that doesn't treat me like some strange sexual > fascination as if my genitals define who I am." - Wed, April 30 2014 17:09 > - Directed towards Steve > > * "Steve loves rules and has an authoritarian stance on everything. > Thats the only reasonable answer that can explain this majestic piece of > legalese:" - Wed, April 30 2014 16:12 - Directed towards Steve > > * Using her position of Treasurer to target those she has a > disagreement with: > > * "Devin - It will be reimbursed just not now, but me and Andy have > been told no on reimbursements and just only us. Given reciepts to others > to get the money. Someone took something the wrong way, and they are > attacking back using the position as treasurer. But this needs to stop > right now, because it is discriminatory." - Tue, April 29 2014 - Meeting > Minutes > > It is with these issues, and others that I may not even be aware of, that > I feel Torrie Fischer is no longer someone SYNHAK can afford to have > around. Causing division and strife within the community, then refusing to > take responsibility for it. She has shown that she can't be trusted in a > position of power within SYNHAK as she uses it as a weapon on her personal > enemies. Personally attacking members, calling them transphobes when there > is no evidence of such, talking negatively about SYNHAK, and saying that > SYNHAK is dead are all reasons for removal. Plus if she thinks it's dead > then there is no reason for her to be here any ways as it will just cause > trouble. > > -Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list > [email protected] https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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