If anything we owe it to -any- of our members to set up the  CWG and
determine a course of action surrounding their continued involvement.

I have a draft of the proposal for a CWG but I have been focusing on school
lately. I will send it out tonight. Omar had also indicated that he has
suggestions for the CWG.

I did not mean to imply malicious editing. There was a time when we all got
along , even had fun together, and I'm just naive enough to think there's a
chance we can still return to that.

Regards,
Andrew L
On Apr 30, 2014 8:21 PM, "Robert Rybicki" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Torrie is one of Robert W favorite people in the world. Jen or myself will
> be blocking this by proxy.
>
> Torrie is beyond talented in so many ways and is a huge benefit to the
> community. Granted she is currently using her talents to insult and flame
> others on the mailing list, her unexcellent behavior is a response to
> insults and threatening behavior. You people need to work it out because
> forcing each other out of the community or out of offices is not cutting
> it. That goes for Torrie as well.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Chris Egeland <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Chiming in that I will block this proposal.  That is all.
>
> Chris Egeland
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 19:50, Steve Radonich IV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'm sorry but we do not have time to set up a CWG with all of the
> procedures and such they are supposed to follow while this type of
> treatment is going on. These are all publicly available on the email list
> and the quotes are in no way altered. I really am failing to see your logic
> in defending Torrie's actions today on the discuss list when she has been
> nothing but vile towards others.
>
> -Steve
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:45:41 -0400
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Removal of Torrie from the SYNHAK
> Community
>
> I'm not sure we have enough facts to back up the claims made in some of
> these quotes.
> Until such time that we get the community working group involved and have
> all the facts rather than partial quotes and hurt feelings I cannot support
> this proposal.
> Regards,
> Andrew L
> On Apr 30, 2014 7:26 PM, "Steve Radonich IV" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Proposal: Removal Torrie from the SYNHAK Community
>
> I am proposing the following:
>
> The removal of Torrie Fischer from the SYNHAK community for the following
> reasons.
>
> * Negatively talking about SYNHAK affecting the public opinion of the
> community on the mailing lists, examples being:
>
>     * "Never started SYNHAK, the Akron Hackerspace." - Wed, April 30 2014
> 17:09
>
>     * "Then I hear that I'm being removed as Treasurer due to Devin and
> Andy's persecution complex, so I started looking for housing in the
>     San Francisco because SYNHAK is dead to me." - Wed, April 30 2014 15:59
>
>     * "It died months ago when I was convinced to rescind my proposal to
> remove Justin from the board." - Wed, April 30 2014 15:59
>
>     * "Congrats! I'm so proud of everyone. We are now (in)famous within
> the hacker communities." - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49
>
>     * "RIP SYNHAK. Killed by bystander apathy." - Wed, April 30 2014 14:29
>
> * Publicly attacking Steve Radonich IV and Andy B. on the mailing list by
> unjustly calling them names, examples being:
>
>     * "Remember, folks: you voted this mental midget of a person onto the
> board :)" - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49 - Directed towards Andy
>
>     * "Remember, folks: I'm someone who should be put up with! You all
> decided to go along with his plan to introduce more rules and bureaucracy
> to   stop someone from forcing the community to address a situation where
> they feel completely unsafe!" - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49 - Directed towards
> Steve
>
>     * "A community that doesn't treat me like some strange sexual
> fascination as if my genitals define who I am." - Wed, April 30 2014 17:09
> - Directed towards Steve
>
>     * "Steve loves rules and has an authoritarian stance on everything.
> Thats the only reasonable answer that can explain this majestic piece of
> legalese:" - Wed, April 30 2014 16:12 - Directed towards Steve
>
>     * Using her position of Treasurer to target those she has a
> disagreement with:
>
>     * "Devin - It will be reimbursed just not now, but me and Andy have
> been told no on reimbursements and just only us. Given reciepts to others
> to get the money. Someone took something the wrong way, and they are
> attacking back using the position as treasurer. But this needs to stop
> right now, because it is discriminatory." - Tue, April 29 2014 - Meeting
> Minutes
>
> It is with these issues, and others that I may not even be aware of, that
> I feel Torrie Fischer is no longer someone SYNHAK can afford to have
> around. Causing division and strife within the community, then refusing to
> take responsibility for it. She has shown that she can't be trusted in a
> position of power within SYNHAK as she uses it as a weapon on her personal
> enemies. Personally attacking members, calling them transphobes when there
> is no evidence of such, talking negatively about SYNHAK, and saying that
> SYNHAK is dead are all reasons for removal. Plus if she thinks it's dead
> then there is no reason for her to be here any ways as it will just cause
> trouble.
>
> -Steve
>
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