On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 20:34:50 a l wrote:
> If anything we owe it to -any- of our members to set up the  CWG and
> determine a course of action surrounding their continued involvement.
> 
> I have a draft of the proposal for a CWG but I have been focusing on school
> lately. I will send it out tonight. Omar had also indicated that he has
> suggestions for the CWG.
> 
> I did not mean to imply malicious editing. There was a time when we all got
> along , even had fun together, and I'm just naive enough to think there's a
> chance we can still return to that.

Andrew, I've never stopped believing in that.

> 
> Regards,
> Andrew L
> 
> On Apr 30, 2014 8:21 PM, "Robert Rybicki" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Torrie is one of Robert W favorite people in the world. Jen or myself will
> > be blocking this by proxy.
> > 
> > Torrie is beyond talented in so many ways and is a huge benefit to the
> > community. Granted she is currently using her talents to insult and flame
> > others on the mailing list, her unexcellent behavior is a response to
> > insults and threatening behavior. You people need to work it out because
> > forcing each other out of the community or out of offices is not cutting
> > it. That goes for Torrie as well.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > On Apr 30, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Chris Egeland <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Chiming in that I will block this proposal.  That is all.
> > 
> > Chris Egeland
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > On Apr 30, 2014, at 19:50, Steve Radonich IV <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > I'm sorry but we do not have time to set up a CWG with all of the
> > procedures and such they are supposed to follow while this type of
> > treatment is going on. These are all publicly available on the email list
> > and the quotes are in no way altered. I really am failing to see your
> > logic
> > in defending Torrie's actions today on the discuss list when she has been
> > nothing but vile towards others.
> > 
> > -Steve
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:45:41 -0400
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Removal of Torrie from the SYNHAK
> > Community
> > 
> > I'm not sure we have enough facts to back up the claims made in some of
> > these quotes.
> > Until such time that we get the community working group involved and have
> > all the facts rather than partial quotes and hurt feelings I cannot
> > support
> > this proposal.
> > Regards,
> > Andrew L
> > On Apr 30, 2014 7:26 PM, "Steve Radonich IV" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Proposal: Removal Torrie from the SYNHAK Community
> > 
> > I am proposing the following:
> > 
> > The removal of Torrie Fischer from the SYNHAK community for the following
> > reasons.
> > 
> > * Negatively talking about SYNHAK affecting the public opinion of the
> > 
> > community on the mailing lists, examples being:
> >     * "Never started SYNHAK, the Akron Hackerspace." - Wed, April 30 2014
> > 
> > 17:09
> > 
> >     * "Then I hear that I'm being removed as Treasurer due to Devin and
> > 
> > Andy's persecution complex, so I started looking for housing in the
> > 
> >     San Francisco because SYNHAK is dead to me." - Wed, April 30 2014
> >     15:59
> >     
> >     * "It died months ago when I was convinced to rescind my proposal to
> > 
> > remove Justin from the board." - Wed, April 30 2014 15:59
> > 
> >     * "Congrats! I'm so proud of everyone. We are now (in)famous within
> > 
> > the hacker communities." - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49
> > 
> >     * "RIP SYNHAK. Killed by bystander apathy." - Wed, April 30 2014 14:29
> > 
> > * Publicly attacking Steve Radonich IV and Andy B. on the mailing list by
> > 
> > unjustly calling them names, examples being:
> >     * "Remember, folks: you voted this mental midget of a person onto the
> > 
> > board :)" - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49 - Directed towards Andy
> > 
> >     * "Remember, folks: I'm someone who should be put up with! You all
> > 
> > decided to go along with his plan to introduce more rules and bureaucracy
> > to   stop someone from forcing the community to address a situation where
> > they feel completely unsafe!" - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49 - Directed
> > towards
> > Steve
> > 
> >     * "A community that doesn't treat me like some strange sexual
> > 
> > fascination as if my genitals define who I am." - Wed, April 30 2014 17:09
> > - Directed towards Steve
> > 
> >     * "Steve loves rules and has an authoritarian stance on everything.
> > 
> > Thats the only reasonable answer that can explain this majestic piece of
> > legalese:" - Wed, April 30 2014 16:12 - Directed towards Steve
> > 
> >     * Using her position of Treasurer to target those she has a
> > 
> > disagreement with:
> >     * "Devin - It will be reimbursed just not now, but me and Andy have
> > 
> > been told no on reimbursements and just only us. Given reciepts to others
> > to get the money. Someone took something the wrong way, and they are
> > attacking back using the position as treasurer. But this needs to stop
> > right now, because it is discriminatory." - Tue, April 29 2014 - Meeting
> > Minutes
> > 
> > It is with these issues, and others that I may not even be aware of, that
> > I feel Torrie Fischer is no longer someone SYNHAK can afford to have
> > around. Causing division and strife within the community, then refusing to
> > take responsibility for it. She has shown that she can't be trusted in a
> > position of power within SYNHAK as she uses it as a weapon on her personal
> > enemies. Personally attacking members, calling them transphobes when there
> > is no evidence of such, talking negatively about SYNHAK, and saying that
> > SYNHAK is dead are all reasons for removal. Plus if she thinks it's dead
> > then there is no reason for her to be here any ways as it will just cause
> > trouble.
> > 
> > -Steve
> > 
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