I'll send those suggestions to you over the weekend when I've had time to
proof and polish it.
On Apr 30, 2014 8:34 PM, "a l" <[email protected]> wrote:

> If anything we owe it to -any- of our members to set up the  CWG and
> determine a course of action surrounding their continued involvement.
>
> I have a draft of the proposal for a CWG but I have been focusing on
> school lately. I will send it out tonight. Omar had also indicated that he
> has suggestions for the CWG.
>
> I did not mean to imply malicious editing. There was a time when we all
> got along , even had fun together, and I'm just naive enough to think
> there's a chance we can still return to that.
>
> Regards,
> Andrew L
> On Apr 30, 2014 8:21 PM, "Robert Rybicki" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Torrie is one of Robert W favorite people in the world. Jen or myself
>> will be blocking this by proxy.
>>
>> Torrie is beyond talented in so many ways and is a huge benefit to the
>> community. Granted she is currently using her talents to insult and flame
>> others on the mailing list, her unexcellent behavior is a response to
>> insults and threatening behavior. You people need to work it out because
>> forcing each other out of the community or out of offices is not cutting
>> it. That goes for Torrie as well.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Chris Egeland <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Chiming in that I will block this proposal.  That is all.
>>
>> Chris Egeland
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 19:50, Steve Radonich IV <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm sorry but we do not have time to set up a CWG with all of the
>> procedures and such they are supposed to follow while this type of
>> treatment is going on. These are all publicly available on the email list
>> and the quotes are in no way altered. I really am failing to see your logic
>> in defending Torrie's actions today on the discuss list when she has been
>> nothing but vile towards others.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:45:41 -0400
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Removal of Torrie from the SYNHAK
>> Community
>>
>> I'm not sure we have enough facts to back up the claims made in some of
>> these quotes.
>> Until such time that we get the community working group involved and have
>> all the facts rather than partial quotes and hurt feelings I cannot support
>> this proposal.
>> Regards,
>> Andrew L
>> On Apr 30, 2014 7:26 PM, "Steve Radonich IV" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Proposal: Removal Torrie from the SYNHAK Community
>>
>> I am proposing the following:
>>
>> The removal of Torrie Fischer from the SYNHAK community for the following
>> reasons.
>>
>> * Negatively talking about SYNHAK affecting the public opinion of the
>> community on the mailing lists, examples being:
>>
>>     * "Never started SYNHAK, the Akron Hackerspace." - Wed, April 30 2014
>> 17:09
>>
>>     * "Then I hear that I'm being removed as Treasurer due to Devin and
>> Andy's persecution complex, so I started looking for housing in the
>>     San Francisco because SYNHAK is dead to me." - Wed, April 30 2014
>> 15:59
>>
>>     * "It died months ago when I was convinced to rescind my proposal to
>> remove Justin from the board." - Wed, April 30 2014 15:59
>>
>>     * "Congrats! I'm so proud of everyone. We are now (in)famous within
>> the hacker communities." - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49
>>
>>     * "RIP SYNHAK. Killed by bystander apathy." - Wed, April 30 2014 14:29
>>
>> * Publicly attacking Steve Radonich IV and Andy B. on the mailing list by
>> unjustly calling them names, examples being:
>>
>>     * "Remember, folks: you voted this mental midget of a person onto the
>> board :)" - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49 - Directed towards Andy
>>
>>     * "Remember, folks: I'm someone who should be put up with! You all
>> decided to go along with his plan to introduce more rules and bureaucracy
>> to   stop someone from forcing the community to address a situation where
>> they feel completely unsafe!" - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49 - Directed towards
>> Steve
>>
>>     * "A community that doesn't treat me like some strange sexual
>> fascination as if my genitals define who I am." - Wed, April 30 2014 17:09
>> - Directed towards Steve
>>
>>     * "Steve loves rules and has an authoritarian stance on everything.
>> Thats the only reasonable answer that can explain this majestic piece of
>> legalese:" - Wed, April 30 2014 16:12 - Directed towards Steve
>>
>>     * Using her position of Treasurer to target those she has a
>> disagreement with:
>>
>>     * "Devin - It will be reimbursed just not now, but me and Andy have
>> been told no on reimbursements and just only us. Given reciepts to others
>> to get the money. Someone took something the wrong way, and they are
>> attacking back using the position as treasurer. But this needs to stop
>> right now, because it is discriminatory." - Tue, April 29 2014 - Meeting
>> Minutes
>>
>> It is with these issues, and others that I may not even be aware of, that
>> I feel Torrie Fischer is no longer someone SYNHAK can afford to have
>> around. Causing division and strife within the community, then refusing to
>> take responsibility for it. She has shown that she can't be trusted in a
>> position of power within SYNHAK as she uses it as a weapon on her personal
>> enemies. Personally attacking members, calling them transphobes when there
>> is no evidence of such, talking negatively about SYNHAK, and saying that
>> SYNHAK is dead are all reasons for removal. Plus if she thinks it's dead
>> then there is no reason for her to be here any ways as it will just cause
>> trouble.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
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