Yea I just got to say that I am against a time limit for proposals at a 
meeting. As just said, a huge issue is getting people "in turn" when instead a 
question should be asked and then answered. Lets not limit any discussion that 
could help us grow.

-Steve

From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 13:26:19 -0400
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Time Limit proposals during meetings

The issue I see is that a meeting is not well moderated. When rebuttals occur 
we need to keep the conversation on point and focused. I stand behind the idea 
of rebuttals occurring and a response allowed by the sponsor of the proposal. 


Party A proposed idea. Party B ask a questionParty A gets to respondParty C can 
ask a new question or ask for clarificationParty A can clarify.


So often the moderator starts with who had their hands raised first. A then B 
then C then D then E then A then C then A then F. (see the difficulty?) We are 
all waiting our turn for our own point instead of handling our points in order.



Presenting and idea in 10 mins is easy. Answering all questions and debates in 
10 mins is very hard.

Motions to <vote, table, close meeting, etc> are standard procedures that any 
member can initialize and 2nd. We have used them in the past. They work very 
well.



On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 1:13 PM, alex kot <[email protected]> wrote:


Never heard about the "create a motion to vote or motion to table" until today. 
 Either way they reason I brought this up, people dread the meetings due to the 
length of them.  I have been to many Start Up pitches where you have only 5 
mins to convey the whole concept of your company.  I feel if you cannot present 
your topic of proposal within 10 minutes you should probably create a more 
clarified version of what you are trying to convey.




On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Justin Herman <[email protected]> wrote:



IMO we don't need to set a time max.
Under our current operation. When someone has felt the discussion has gone long 
enough they can create a motion to vote or motion to table the discussion. With 
a 2nd person 2nd the motion a vote occurs. The moderator's job is to keep 
discussion on point and for those who want to speak the opportunity to speak.





Justin

On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Michael Griesacker <[email protected]> 
wrote:





PM: -I thought we did a way with "blocking" and consensus with your "straight 
voting" proposal?






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Subject: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Time Limit proposals during meetings
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Problem:  Meetings get
drawn out too long when proposals are brought up.


Solution: Mandatorily when a proposal is brought up during the
meeting it can be only discussed for 10 minutes max.  The person who created 
the proposal will
become the moderator at that time; to insure that time is justified for the
discussion.


Other:

Current proposals rules


 Proposals
     are discussed for one meeting, and decided upon at the meeting that
     immediately follows.
 Proposals
     may be brought up at any time, but must be discussed for at least one week
     before any decision is made.
 During
     that week, discussion must happen during a regular weekly meeting.
 Proposals
     are decided upon at the first meeting that immediately follows that one
     week discussion period.
 You
     need to be at the deciding meeting to block consensus or otherwise
     contribute to the decision.


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