also, did your letter have a link to the beacon article?
also, DMMs with a bar graph somewhere on them are a feature I think
incredibly useful, most flukes, and the better of the (random assembly of
letters)Co. meters from foreign-ebay have.  For the price of an out of
calibration fluke is a new, full featured, pre-out of calibration meter
with usb logging :)

also +1 on craftsman meters being better than you would think.  Do we have
a tax exempt account with sears setup?



On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 5:40 PM, William Schaffer <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Update: I received this in response to a donation letter from a VP of
> Jameco Electronics. No one who's a member of Synhak has a connection to
> Jameco do they?
>
>
> Thanks for the note William. We have two modes of thinking: Marketing and
> Charity. We’ve tested this from a marketing standpoint on a few occasions
> and quite frankly it doesn’t work. We’ve sponsored Maker groups and closely
> watched what happens but it’s a net loss.  So donations and charity is the
> next mode and we do a lot of that but as a small company we’re forced to
> prioritize our charitable giving and we’ve opted to donate to organizations
> with a direct connection to our employees. For obvious reasons that makes
> sense for the organization and we have so much demand for this program that
> we are unlikely to change that.
>
>
>
> I wish you the best of luck and hope you’ll keep in touch.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
> ============================
>
> Greg Harris
>
> Vice President, Sales & Marketing
>
> Jameco Electronics
>
> 650-802-1581
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:14 PM, a l <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I understand the draw of saving money. However I don't see the cheaper
>> DMMs solving the problem proposed here though. What is lacking is precision
>> equipment to test digital circuits. One of the benefits of the community is
>> pooled resources. Anybody can afford a cheap DMM for battery testing or
>> continuity checking. Not everyone can justify the expense of a $60 DMM or a
>> $100 inductor tester.
>>
>> I'm sure we have a simple analog volt meter/continuity tester in one of
>> the travel boxes. We used it at mini-makerfair last year. I'm pretty sure
>> we already have a cheap DMM floating around somewhere. If the one I recall
>> was on short term loan for build out I'd be happy to donate one.
>>
>> regards,
>> Andrew L
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:43 PM, William Schaffer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd love to see Synhak get a bench DMM.. But generally unless you buy a
>>> really old one, they cost way over what's currently in the proposal. Here's
>>> what I think would be best:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fluke-83V-Multimeter-/321430847786?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad6c5812a
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sencore-Z-Meter-Capacitor-Inductor-Analyzer-MODEL-LC53-LC-53-/321436632702?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad71dc67e
>>>
>>> The LC meter is especially important for any analog work (amplifiers,
>>> radios, audio filters, analog mixers, etc).
>>>
>>> I hope that clears it up!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:04 PM, billgod <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Bill (Canton Hacker and Maker Place) here,
>>>>
>>>> I own several multimeters, really nice expensive and super cheap crap
>>>> ones..  If you are looking for a good combo you can't beat this one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Craftsman-34-82141-Digital-Multimeter-Functions/dp/B000X5TSUA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403110759&sr=8-1&keywords=volt+meter+craftsman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have 2 here and they are pretty durable and have most functions you
>>>> need for basic stuff and it's under $20.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just my $.02
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 06/18/2014 12:01 PM, Justin Herman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The reason I like having cheaper DMM and a nicer one too is that many
>>>> times I don't need RMS or exact numbers.
>>>>
>>>>  I might want to know if a circuit has continuity or know ~how much
>>>> voltage a battery has.
>>>>
>>>>  Using a nice DMM for some work means that it might become dirty or
>>>> corroded. Then when needed to be used for EE work you have problems. (and
>>>> nobody got time for that)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Craig Bergdorf <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for contacting them :)
>>>>> If it comes down to buying, I've been a fan of used good over new
>>>>> junk.  An rms meter can be had for ~$50 if you don't mind it being 20 
>>>>> years
>>>>> old.  Bench meters are a lot harder to forget to put back.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Also, did you see this from earlier this year?
>>>>> https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1430
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks again for taking the initiative and we do have letterhead
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Justin Herman <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> These would be a great items to have. I would suggest getting a few
>>>>>> lowercost ($15-20) meters for non precision work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  BUT I cant support spending $ on anything until SynHak has approved
>>>>>> a budget.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:44 PM, William Schaffer <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Problem: In the EE lab, we have a lot of resources to build
>>>>>>> things, but almost nothing to test the projects with. The only useful 
>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>> is the oscilloscope. Picture this: You want to tell if there is a break 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> a cable, but don't have any way to hook it up. If you had a continuity
>>>>>>> meter (a feature found in most multimeters) you'd be able to tell in 
>>>>>>> just a
>>>>>>> few seconds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Solution: Synhak should allocate $150.00 of funds for the purchase
>>>>>>> of a CAT III rated autoranging digital multimeter capable of measuring
>>>>>>> voltage, current, resistance, and continuity, and an 
>>>>>>> inductance/capacitance
>>>>>>> meter to measure inductors and capacitance. This way, we will have 
>>>>>>> adequate
>>>>>>> test equipment to make in the EE lab. I think it would be best to look 
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> ebay first before considering other sources.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I have contacted Adafruit, Mouser, Digikey, and Sparkfun asking
>>>>>>> for a donation, and am waiting for a response. Perhaps it would be 
>>>>>>> helpful
>>>>>>> if I had official letterhead?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I'm looking forward to hearing thoughts on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Thanks!
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>> Very Respectfully,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  William G. Schaffer
>>>>>>> 330-752-3328
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