Oh,oh,oh...
I really didn't wanted to fire up such a discussion.

My 2 ct. regarding pfSense, open source and community work:

Open source means for me that for that specific application I can get anytime 
the source code to be able to modify it or extend it.
As pfSense base its license on the BSD model, which allows almost everything, I 
don't see any complain about it.

In a community development work, as it is done here, priorities are most of the 
time dictated by either community pressure or by the technical challenge every 
single developer sees.
The bounty system is a good idea if you want to change priorities or you need 
something completely new.
As I did not payed anything for the development, I shut my mouth and I'm 
thankful for every effort done by others.
The bug I report are not to blame anybody but rather to help correct errors 
and/or improve quality.

Personally, I think that pfSense is moving quite fast and the releases are 
pretty stable.

So, folk in the list, go on with the great job !


Daniele


Ermal Luçi wrote:
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Jan Hoevers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Chris Buechler wrote on 23-3-2008 8:51:

Jan Hoevers wrote:
 >> While not unwilling to donate to projects, this bounty thing is not for
 >> me because of a strict open source policy.
 >> Again, is there any estimate for 1.3?
 >
 > This is 100% completely open source. The source ported to RELENG_1_2 is
 > even in the public CVS server in its own branch. It's just the images
 > including it are not publicly available. It was back ported as a thanks
 > to those who contributed. You could figure out what it is in CVS and
 > sync a 1.2 install with that code.

 I see. Guess that makes it open source strictly speaking, but it is not
 the 100% openness I would expect from an open source project.  While I
 understand that people have to earn a living, this bounty policy makes
 things difficult for people who want to evaluate before deciding.

Now if you want to bitch about it go on nobody can stop you.
If you had the knowledge that "open source strictly speaking and 100%
openness" would not be there but you would have it in your test
environment.

So either go and learn how to do stuff or just wait as anybody else
when it is shipped/ready for you.

Ermal

 I think I should use the time left to the first 1.3 beta to try a
 FreeBSD/PF/ALT setup and see what I run into.

 Jan Hoevers



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regards


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Daniele Guazzoni
Senior Network Engineer, CCNP, CCNA


Linux and AMD-x86_64 or do you still with Windows and Intel ?

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