On 8/10/12 2:29 PM, "Andreas Schulze" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> A) You don't need to split transactional and personal mail into separate
>> domains, because stuff like mailing lists that would cause DMARC
>>problems
>> is in fact whitelisted.
>
>asked again:
>
>I have a domain used by individuals and also for transactional mails.
>(the company brand ...)
>I setup spf and dkim sign all mail.
>
>How will a receiver distinguish a legit mail resent via a mailing list
>( spf fail & dkim is broken by the listserver, equals to no dkim at all)
>from a forged email from a spamsender
>( spf fail & no dkim signature at all)
>
>I am also in the role of a receiver.
>How do I reliable identify mailing-lists? Where is a definition?

I took the simple approach to check if there is a List-id header in the
emails I reject. I write that piece of information in my logs. I then scan
the logs, and add the appropriate IPs to a whitelist.

Next time round, before I reject, I check the IP is in the whitelist and
there is a List-id, if true, then I accept the email, and tag it as
mailing_list.

The code is at: https://github.com/linkedin/dmarc-msys

However, I have trouble to figure out from what IPs yahoo groups are
sending fromÅ 

I'll devise a better strategy as we go...


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