On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:38 AM, John R Levine <[email protected]> wrote:

> As time goes - it is possible that more and more mail providers will switch
>> to more strict policies and you'll end up telling your users over and over
>> again to switch mail providers.
>>
>
> This is starting to sound like a conspiracy of large mail providers to
> drive everyone else out of the business.
>
> It is a well known limitation of DMARC that there are some legitimate
> sending practices that it does not and cannot describe. Mailing lists are
> the leading example, but there are others like mail an article from a
> newspaper's web site.  If Yahoo can't get this right, we're all in trouble.


I don't personally think we're all in trouble. I think if Yahoo sticks by
this, I think mailing list managers can choose to roll with it by modifying
what they put into the from address when distributing posts, or they can
try to convince subscribers to move away from Yahoo.

I've certainly had to deal with a scenario similar to the latter in the
past; when a certain blacklist operator went off the rails and spite listed
all of my employer, I did have some success convincing subscribers to
change to an email provider that didn't use that DNSBL, but it was a lot of
work for little value. If I were dealing with this specific issue today,
I'd probably just hack my MLM to do what I needed it to do, and maybe even
look at coordinating with others to see about broader updates to how
various MLM software packages work.

I know you won't agree with this, but I wanted to point out that there's
another point of view here. I guess I've worked at an ESP long enough to
know that when you're not the big dog, sometimes you have to roll with what
the big dog does, and just deal with it. Yahoo says I have to do X for what
I want to work for their subscribers, so I do it.

Regards,
Al Iverson

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Al Iverson | Chicago, IL | (312) 725-0130
Twitter: @aliverson / www.spamresource.com
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