In article <[email protected]> you write: >On 04/09/2014 07:46 AM, John Levine wrote: > >> I understand that Yahoo has awful abuse problems, although I would >> guess that Google's are in the same ballpark. But Yahoo is a business, >> not a charity, and its problems are its problems to solve, not to >> demand that the rest of the world solve. > >And indeed, it is solving them. Yahoo! is not demanding, nor even >asking, that you do anything.
I am sorry, but you are just plain 100% wrong here. Yahoo has been providing what they purport to be a general purpose mail system for a long time. About 10% of the people on my church's mailing lists have yahoo.com addresses. If I did not do something, the bogus bounces from Yahoo users' mail would bounce all of the Gmail, Hotmail, Comcast, and Yahoo users off my lists. You may not care, and Yahoo management* evidently doesn't care, but the members of my church who have been using mailing lists to coordinate things for the past decade certainly do. Yahoo is forcing the costs of their abuse issues onto third parties in a way that no other provider does. Given Yahoo's market power, the set of options all around is not pleasant. R's, John * - which I realize is not the same as the Yahoo abuse people we work with _______________________________________________ dmarc-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html)
