On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 5:20 AM Brotman, Alex <Alex_Brotman=
[email protected]> wrote:

> There is a non-zero set of cases where the IETF prefers security over
> interoperability.   A document like RFC8997/8996 where we've deprecated
> TLSv1 in because it was no longer secure. I assure you there are still
> systems/users who have devices incapable of TLSv1.2.  DNSSEC (and things
> that depend on it) can break in "mysterious" ways (specific to DNSSEC) that
> impact interoperability, but sites do so in the in the name of security.
>
> I think we all understand the inconvenience that DMARC can cause to a
> subset of domains, or more accurately its users.  8996 has a section about
> operational considerations, and discusses the impact of systems/users that
> do not support TLSv1.2 and how it will break interoperability.  Can we not
> do similar in DMARCbis with a more lengthy section about the implications
> of "reject"?  Perhaps even expand it to cover the use cases of each policy
> type, and the implications of each?
>

To my mind, there's a substantial difference between something like TLSv1
or HTTP whose deprecation excludes you from participating in something
until you upgrade, versus the DMARC situation where because of an
unfortunate interaction between A (e.g., me) and B (e.g., you) through
intermediary C (e.g., this list), D (e.g., someone else) is negatively
impacted.

-MSK, participating
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