you are right, i agree, the chances are low that you'll get busted, probably very very close to zero if you are cutting your own dubs. they are low enough for "real dnb labels" that you hear tons of uncleared samples, but i think it is important to know the law and asess how much of a risk you are willing to take. i beleive that in the end its the artist who is held financially responsible in the eyes of the law, plus there are often punative fines levied. i personally wouldnt worry about it until you are getting signed to labels, and by then you've probably talked to the guys who run the label about it :)

but my rule of thumb is that i dont give a damn unless its a really obvious sample (like in my "bom bom bom bom" track) ... especially if you are fucking up and morphing the sample somehow.

cheers,

-josh

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blindspot wrote:

Eh, so I've never released a track. But isn't there some kind of scale argument to consider here?

If you're just in your bedroom making tracks, why should it matter what sample you use and whether you can clear it?

It seems the primary factors would be the size of the distribution of the track, the discernability of the sample, and the power/willingness of the rights owner to sue your ass.

In other words, if you go and sample Michael Jackson or the Beatles, and it sounds tight, it might not matter if it gets pressed to some DnB label and distributed to record stores only to find its way into DJ bags and only to be played on DnB dance floors. If the original rights holders never get wind of it, clearing the sample aint gonna matter. Your track will be caned for two months and then its gone. Never even a blip on the radar of college radio.

Lets's face it, the DnB scene is such small potatoes, that it aint gonna freekin matter what sample you are using. And if, a BIG IF, your DnB slab of wax happens to hit so hard that the radio picks it up, it might get some attention. But then the party responsible for the pressing and distribution, in most case not likely the creator himself, will have to have something worth going after. Cease and desist is usually the order of the day for minor copyright infringement.

I think people on this list trip a little too much about copyright. Get real!

bs


copyright does expire, but its recently been retroactively extended to be 95 years after the death of the owner. i'm not sure what happens when an owning company goes under, but usually when comapnies "go udner" they sell all their assets to recoup their losses, so i bet it is extrememly uncommon for noone to end up holding the copyright.

Terry Morgan wrote:

I was under the impression that after a certaion amount of time, some music

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